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BSA CF2 in 30-06, Rebarrel to 35 Whelen ?
@ 12:37 am (GMT) |
Warwick MarflittSo I can get a BSC CF2 30-06 for half a thousand $$$. The plan is to get True flight to rebarrel it to 35 Whelen? What's your thoughts. ? |
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@ 08:42 am (GMT) |
Warwick MarflittRe: BSA CF2 in 30-06, Rebarrel to 35 Whelen ?Thanks Nathan. I have already ordered standard Dies. I can do the Ackley Improved later if the standard has issues. The Ackley Improved dies are gold plated Phew!!!!! looking at the price geezers! I'll get the full length barrel that True Flight make as long as the BSA has enough guts to support it. I'm thinking a #3 contoured 28 inch barrel and a Mohican jacket and haircut?I rang Grant today and he's building a 35 cal test rig over the next few weeks. I'm not in a hurry I just want to knock the guts out of a big Red/Wapti cross Stag? I know where some farmed Elk got out and dated some of the wild red hinds. The Roars a coming! The Six an a half by fifty five Swede's no slouch with hand loads and the 140gn Partitions or A max's. It pokes holes in the right place. I love it. Cheers every one for the advice and support. It's going to be a great shooter me thinks.? |
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@ 12:36 am (GMT) |
Warwick MarflittRe: BSA CF2 in 30-06, Rebarrel to 35 Whelen ?Are a box of (50) .358 Cal 225 grn Partition projectiles worth the $2.34 NZD each$117 NZD per box price tag? |
@ 01:19 am (GMT) |
Martin TaylorRe: BSA CF2 in 30-06, Rebarrel to 35 Whelen ?50x 200gn 30 cal's are $90 odd here Warwick so sounds about right!!!That's why l ended up using the Woodleighs in the 9.3mm, ohh and l can get the things when l need them unlike anything US. Haven't been able to fault them yet either, performed very well on every test subject so far hahaahaa. |
@ 01:20 am (GMT) |
Michael RaynerRe: BSA CF2 in 30-06, Rebarrel to 35 Whelen ?On a trophy hunt well worth it, otherwise probably not in my opinion |
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@ 01:08 am (GMT) |
Warwick MarflittRe: BSA CF2 in 30-06, Rebarrel to 35 Whelen ?WOW! A 340 grain .358 copper projectile? BC .930 Who's got quickload to run some numbers Lol https://cuttingedgebullets.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=MTH_E01 |
@ 05:24 pm (GMT) |
Bryan WebsterRe: BSA CF2 in 30-06, Rebarrel to 35 Whelen ?Quote: WOW! A 340 grain .358 copper projectile? BC .930 Who's got quickload to run some numbers Lol https://cuttingedgebullets.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=MTH_E01 Well here is the bullet I used to shoot a couple moose with from a .35 Whelen built on a featherweight Husqvarna action and Hart barrel: http://www.speer-bullets.com/ballistics/detail.aspx?id=118 The last was a large bull facing me dead on at 75 yards with head up. Shot for just above where the neck and brisket join...bullet made a pass through and came out the left hind quarter low. He dropped on the spot and never stirred. This was a lot of years back but I do remember the wound channel being huge right through high in heart area and lungs and a mess beyond. After him it was no facing or tail on shots! I most certainly could not fault the bullet performance, and most see on shots also went through leaving a lot of damage, all dropped with little resistance / movement other than a few steps. I think you might be pleasantly surprised. |
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@ 05:26 pm (GMT) |
Bryan WebsterRe: BSA CF2 in 30-06, Rebarrel to 35 Whelen ?should have read 'side on shots' |
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@ 01:29 pm (GMT) |
Michael RaynerRe: BSA CF2 in 30-06, Rebarrel to 35 Whelen ?[quote][quote]WOW! A 340 grain .358 copper projectile? BC .930 Who's got quickload to run some numbers Lol https://cuttingedgebullets.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=MTH_E01[/quote. Did some rough numbers it's not very good in a Whelen, the bloody thing is 2 inches long and recommended as a single loading only anyway. Trim length +1.47" =3.95 COAL, neck sized case, 55 gr h4350 @107%fill 59,266psi@ 2,184fps 24 inch barrel, which would be special throat length. Run to magazine length 3.340" it should do 1800 with 40gr @107% fill 500m. 1000m 340gr@2184. -77"@1743fps. -500"@1378fps 250gr@2500. -73"@1580fps. -589"@1045fps Partition bc .446 |
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@ 03:25 am (GMT) |
Warwick MarflittRe: BSA CF2 in 30-06, Rebarrel to 35 Whelen ?Thanks Michael. I saw its single loading long COAL specs . It appears that its a special bullet made for a special rifle. The 310 gr Woodleigh bullets probably any amount for anything in NZ. |
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@ 05:22 am (GMT) |
Michael RaynerRe: BSA CF2 in 30-06, Rebarrel to 35 Whelen ?It's fun sometimes just to have a play with it to see different ballistics. I've never played with 35's before, had a 338wm once but sold it because I never used it.Couldn't get very good velocities with it even using 358 STA and 358 Ultra, looks like it would be real finicky getting the right powder. I think it must be just too long unless it's a 358/408 cheytac |
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@ 12:45 am (GMT) |
Warwick MarflittRe: BSA CF2 in 30-06, Rebarrel to 35 Whelen ?I think it's important to stick with what works for your chosen calibre with optimal twist rate. Having " realistic expectations" of your chosen set up. I think I'll end up with a nicely balanced rifle. Its just a case of waiting for True fight to finish setting up the 358 cal equipment. Looking at the 35 Whelen forums most like it with 225 and 250 grn pills |
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@ 07:41 am (GMT) |
Warwick MarflittRe: BSA CF2 in 30-06, Rebarrel to 35 Whelen ?Reloading dies arrived today. Awesome. |
@ 06:53 am (GMT) |
Francis SaundersRe: BSA CF2 in 30-06, Rebarrel to 35 Whelen ?Just had my CF2 .243 re barrelled, to 7x57The Smith had a right job getting the old one off! I'm not telling you how to suck eggs but.... be aware it may take a bit of heat etc. Also look out that you don't twist the action as this can happen. Looks good though! What year is it? |
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@ 09:46 pm (GMT) |
Warwick MarflittRe: BSA CF2 in 30-06, Rebarrel to 35 Whelen ?Hi Francis. I think its late 1970's because the trigger isn't the pressed tin plate job! True Flight will have the pleasure of removing the old sewer pipe and fitting the new 358 barrel. If the barrels stuffed you can heat and bend it at 90 deg 8 inches from the action and there you have a good handle to lever on and really twist up the action. Soak it in a bucket of diesel for a day. Its an Excellent penetrating oil. Its okay mate. I like eggs |
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@ 09:52 pm (GMT) |
Francis SaundersRe: BSA CF2 in 30-06, Rebarrel to 35 Whelen ?If you have a look on.http://www.airgunspares.com/store/content/85/FAQ/ See what is my BSA? That will give you your year. They soaked mine for two days and the bugger still needed some shifting. I'll be growing bent tomatoes this year!! |
@ 10:40 pm (GMT) |
Nathan FosterRe: BSA CF2 in 30-06, Rebarrel to 35 Whelen ?I thoroughly dislike using a great deal of heat on actions. Some heat is OK but we have to be so careful not to soften and twist the action.A plunge cut perhaps: Cut a groove in the barrel at the face of the receiver. Or a plunge cut plus diesel soaking. But my favorite- harmonics. A selection of hammers that produce different frequencies, try each on a barrel. The right tone can help release an action. As a species I believe we completely underestimate harmonics as a fundamental principle of the organization of matter. |
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@ 03:35 am (GMT) |
Warwick MarflittRe: BSA CF2 in 30-06, Rebarrel to 35 Whelen ?Eureka! Yes Nathan. .... I learnt this with tie rod ends on cars and Trucks. Different weight hammers shock At different hertz. I watched a bloke bludgeon a steering arm with a blacksmiths short handled club hammer. He hit it that many times he was pooped!I smashed(Hit it like you hate it and want it to die) twice with a 16oz ball pein hammer and it popped open. Apparently he'd loosened it up making it easy for me. If you can freeze a seized nut and bolt then pour BOILING HOT water or oil over just the nut it expands enough to loosen it and its a way to get things apart when you don't have access to oxy/acetylene or when too much heat will destroy the steels temper? |
@ 04:51 am (GMT) |
Paul LevermanRe: BSA CF2 in 30-06, Rebarrel to 35 Whelen ?If you use a bigger hammer, you don't have to hit it as hard. |
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@ 11:24 am (GMT) |
Warwick MarflittRe: BSA CF2 in 30-06, Rebarrel to 35 Whelen ?Sorry but :0 It doesn't work like that. Hit it like you mean it ! You watch a fencer or builder hitting in nails. They use a full swing to get the most kinetic energy into the hammer so that the nail gets driven into the wood! Swinging the hammer head hard and fast makes it really ring and sends a high energy Ping of vibration through the steel and the tapered pin just pops open.A heavy hammer just bruses and deforms the metal....... Make sure you leave the castle nut loose over the threads so the tie rod end doesn't fly out and damage you or the vehicle. And if you miss the threads wont be damaged.. Bub Andrews, an old mechanic taught me how to get these out. His words "don't hit it like a girl ". |
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@ 04:43 pm (GMT) |
Paul LevermanRe: BSA CF2 in 30-06, Rebarrel to 35 Whelen ?Yeah....I know. As soon as I re-read it on the forum, I knew I was going to take flak for it. My apologies, Warwick. It was late and my brain doesn't always work. Instead of "hard", I should have said 'fast'. So, as well, Nathan, when you read this, ignore my email from last night, it is probably wrong too. |
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@ 10:12 pm (GMT) |
Nathan FosterRe: BSA CF2 in 30-06, Rebarrel to 35 Whelen ?Tired posts. I get that. My post could do with correction too as I think about it.If you have the barrel in a barrel vice, it won't ring. You have to put the action wrench in the action, try with a long bar and can really only hit the bar when the force is loaded (two people) because things can fracture so easily (and then striking can be as bad as excessive heat). The trick is trying to get that tone to travel all the way to the barrel threads. Sometimes it all turns to hell no matter what you try. One could also try mild heat and then freezer contraction combined with wd40. |
@ 10:48 pm (GMT) |
Thomas KitchenRe: BSA CF2 in 30-06, Rebarrel to 35 Whelen ?I think if your barrels screwed your far better off doing a relief cut just in front of the action to avoid any damage to your action.Then going through all the options if it's still stuck. I would avoid action wrenches that lock at the back of the action to as your more likely to twist your action to. I got a lee enfield at home that the barrel is pretty much rusted on but action only has surface rust on it. I brought the gun for the original wood that was on it but would hate to waste an action. I have played with the idea of cutting barrel short and throwing action in sonic cleaner before attempting to remove barrel. |
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@ 10:52 pm (GMT) |
Warwick MarflittRe: BSA CF2 in 30-06, Rebarrel to 35 Whelen ?No worries Paul. We learn from being or doing wrong? The old man in a village sat looking at the teenragers car after it rolled off it's jack! Chuckled and said " To be old and wise, first we must be young and stupid".The great thing about this site is the sharing of knowledge and the freedom to ask or discuss issues. I'm sorry if I was a bit brash Paul. I'm trying to quit smoking and I've taken up swimming instead. Cheers mate. |
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@ 02:24 am (GMT) |
Warwick MarflittRe: BSA CF2 in 30-06, Rebarrel to 35 Whelen ?Sent rifle off to True flight today for its new barrel. Hopefully it'll be back before the end of the roar . I'll make up some reloads ready for load development. ;D |
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@ 05:16 am (GMT) |
Paul LevermanRe: BSA CF2 in 30-06, Rebarrel to 35 Whelen ?I'm sure if TruFlight (sp?) has the barrel and action, their barrel people will get the old one off without an issue. There are many tried and true ways to remove steel from steel without damaging the piece you want to save. |
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