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The laziest way i could think of
@ 04:55 am (GMT) |
chris mooneyI decided to bed my rem 700 sps with nathans resins. The main thing wrong with it was the front scope rail was crocked, i think thats why it was on trade me so cheap, i took a gamble. i lapped the scope rings and put a piece of 2mm plate in front of the recoil tab an took it to my mates farm, it shot within a bulls roar, but i thought it could do better. i watched the vidieos and read the instructions an thought, stuff that!! to much room for getting hawhaa. so, i marked all my reference points, then i sanded the stock clear to float the action everywhere else. stabilised the forpiece then floated that end again. Then i took out the plastic ready to put the resin around the recoil tab, but i only poured enough resin in to make a pad around the recoil tab, not enough for it to come up to the top, no plasticine dams etc. was very easy to get the action out after the resin had cured, yes i used tape on the recoil tab for battery clearance. i got a piece of steel rod 34.5mm diameter from engineering shop same diameter as rifles action, l used that rod to create the bed around the rear kingscrew, saved me pulling the trigger off the action and all that dam stuff again. so l have a gun bedded around the base of the kingscrews and recoil tab, floating around the rest of the action, and after all that thankfully it still shoots whithin a bulls roar, but it is a much smaller bulls roar, 2cm 10 shot 100m, and not so much stress an swearing. Thanks for your great product Nathan. |
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@ 05:00 am (GMT) |
chris mooneyRe: The laziest way i could think ofYeah so it was 2 separate pours and cures for the front and back kingscrews, but still way easier. |
@ 02:29 pm (GMT) |
Warwick MarflittRe: The laziest way i could think ofHaha Chris! There's an old saying " Give the laziest person the hardest job and they'll find the easiest way to do it "? This will be a good test. Of another saying that " the only thing worse than good advice is not listening to it "! Time and round count will be the measure of its success. What caliber is it? 416 nitro express :0 lol enjoy your shooting mate. |
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@ 04:18 pm (GMT) |
chris mooneyRe: The laziest way i could think ofI'm gunna give it to a mates kid, I'd be confident now with a good rest to take a head or neck shot, wheras before the bedding it was only a front shoulder sort of gun. |
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@ 05:15 am (GMT) |
Warwick MarflittRe: The laziest way i could think ofUmmmm! You've stated that you couldn't be naffed doing the work required to bed the rifle..too hoha....So Its not been beded its been gooed up in its spaces n places with bedding compound! As long as you're happy with the end result and IT LASTS !!!! I hope that the young lad don't have the job go phutt on him and ends up with MOBD poor accuracy? Wounded animals and more misses than hits? Keep an eye on it for him and if it fails to last you can do it again? and again and again which may not happen but will be defeatist and possibly even end up taking longer than doing it proper in the first place? I think you gave up on yourself too easily? Some pictures of your work would be nice to see As i could be totally wrong and just barking at flying birds? I hadn't heard the term hōhā (annoying, boring,weary, nuisance) for ages. Its a great Maori expression. This jobs gunna be hoha! LolPost a pic or two for us to see? Cheers Chris. thanks for sharing. |
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@ 04:58 am (GMT) |
chris mooneyRe: The laziest way i could think ofThe rifle has been bedded where it needed to be. It now has the correct clearance for battery around the recoil tab, and it sits on a bed of resin which is solid from the front of the magazine well, out to where the stabilising resin starts, and is a mirror image of the underside of the action. That bed and the small bed around the rear kingscrew under the tang are the only two places where the barrell/action touch the stock. That should achieve the objective of consistant harmonics in my opinion, and it is in line with how all the high power rifles I have been familiar with have been set up, ie clearance for a cigarette paper aroud the action and for the cig papers tab under the barrell up to the breach. When I do this job on another remington l will bed the front, and then see how it shoots before l touch the rear, as the rear is such a small area of contact that l think it could be left with just the sides relieved by sanding, even more lazy. The proof is in how the cannon shoots, and l got this 308 from scattering shoots all over about a 120mm cirlce at about 100m, to shooting a ragged hole about 40mm wide in my new tele's cardboard box at same site, an thats as good as l can shoot on my best day with anything. |
@ 08:37 am (GMT) |
Mike DavisRe: The laziest way i could think ofJeeeeez Wayne...thats not even close to being lazy......2 of mine are re bedded with a HOT GLUE GUN!!!!!!! and one of them relieved with grease applied by finger!!!!!!one day I will get around to re doing my .223 Zastava it works for me for now,but every time I look at her the thought niggles me.... |
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@ 07:29 pm (GMT) |
chris mooneyRe: The laziest way i could think ofOne important step l forgot to mention. When l bedded the recoil tab end l had that screw hole full of plastercine, l put the floorplate/trigger guard in and put the screw through the rear hole and did it up til it was just up, and let it of and gave the action a push to the rear to place the recoil tab, then just firmed it up again. The front down firm with rubber bands, over the scope. That to line it all up. I know there will be plenty of other guys who look at the full bedding job and react as l did, most blokes say 'why would you mess about the gun makers know what they're doing'. With a remington 700 sps its fairly easy to improve the accuracy, even for a rough mongrel like me. |
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@ 07:42 pm (GMT) |
chris mooneyRe: The laziest way i could think ofCould go on forever with details, a bit of an understanding of the theory is the best bet. Last thing, you need to check that the kingscrews have clearance arond them that they wont bash against the side of their hole when the gun is fired. Stuff that book writting capper, specially with my spelling. |
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@ 11:04 pm (GMT) |
chris mooneyRe: The laziest way i could think ofOK, so have got some photo's of the job on my puter now, that was a mission as l am not techno. l don't know how to get the pics onto here. lf anyone wants to see them they will have to tell me how to get them on here or maybe email them. |
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@ 02:59 am (GMT) |
Warwick MarflittRe: The laziest way i could think ofhttp://www.ballisticstudies.com/Resources/Discussion+Forums/x_forum/29.html |
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@ 05:05 am (GMT) |
chris mooneyRe: The laziest way i could think ofl don't know what to do with that Warwik, let me know yr email an l will send you some pics. |
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@ 05:35 am (GMT) |
Warwick MarflittRe: The laziest way i could think ofOn the discussion forum main page. If you scroll lazily down the left sides red titles you will Find one that says " HOW TO POST PHOTOS " I never post my email address on a forum. Its a sure fire way to get a digital gut shot ! I just wish I could shoot back at the F#@!ers. Cheers mate |
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@ 09:07 am (GMT) |
Mike DavisRe: The laziest way i could think ofChris...you COULD go out and buy finest industry approved super duper 3 pot paint designed for Farraris and formular one race cars and then paint your VW Beetle using said paint with a 6" boar bristle brush too,and have a job you are happy with...personally a spraycan from the warehouse or repco might have been better value for money or even a can of house paint from Placemakers if you wrote to Farrari and told them what a great job/finish you achieved with your 6" boar bristle brush what reaction do you think you would get in reply????? Nathans books tell in great detail how to do a quick/cheap try out...its called "glue n screw" not a long term solution and books tell why,same as old school automotive bog. my hot gluegun jobs are similar to the factory bedding Winchester did on my .270 when it left factory,but are far inferior to the bedding job she has now thanks to Nathans great product and aftersales service helping this instruction challenged Kiwi get job done right first time. |
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@ 05:18 pm (GMT) |
chris mooneyRe: The laziest way i could think ofNope, the photo thing is too hard, even stone cold sober first thing in the morning. l did paint a cf bedford with a brush once, but it wasn't a flash pigs hair one. |
@ 07:11 pm (GMT) |
Nathan FosterRe: The laziest way i could think of
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@ 07:19 pm (GMT) |
Nathan FosterRe: The laziest way i could think ofHi Chris, 2cm for 10 shots is pretty good. Good to hear that you took note of the tape relief so it can return to battery. Sure looks rough but it does look solid.Ironically, I think some of the roughest jobs I have seen are the pretty but thin and brittle skim jobs with no critical relief. This one actually looks quite dense. Just have to keep in mind that it will collect water and dirt in the sides which will lead to rusting whether the action is stainless or blued. So do make sure the metal is kept well greased. |
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@ 01:59 am (GMT) |
chris mooneyRe: The laziest way i could think ofThanks Nathan, for taking my angry drunk posts off here, and putting a pic up. Yes l had to clean the grease off to take pics, and l cut my finger on the edge of the pad, which is sharp as a knife all the way round, surface tension pulled the resin up the sides of the barrell. I used shoe polish as release agent on the metal and the stuff you sent me on the plastic, another detail. I should have said l shot a 4cm group, l thought l may have missed the box ten times till l walked up and was stoked to see that hole in the cross I'd painted on, but good for me lying on my fat guts out in a paddock. |
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@ 10:15 pm (GMT) |
Warwick MarflittRe: The laziest way i could think ofChris Thanks for sharing your bedding job pics. I'm impressed with your corner cutting. Having seen it. Well done. Its a tidy looking job. Hows the finger healing. The area you have done is larger than I'd visualised from your post. Thanks for sharing and the picture its worth a thousand drunken slurs. I've painted two cars with brush and enamel car paint. A mini road car and a 180B Datsun paddock car. Cheers for showing us another cat skinning technique. |
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@ 05:43 am (GMT) |
chris mooneyRe: The laziest way i could think ofCheers Warwick, but l think enamel was a bit over the top, fence and deck reduced to clear. A workmate is going into the Kaimanawas next week for a week, he has the same rifle as mine but in 7mm 08, he cannot find the bolt for it. I have offered him a loan of my rifle, he will have to shoot it in as l have just put a new sightron scope on. It will be interesting 1, how it shots for him 2, if his wife will let him have his bolt back and 3, if he decides to tune his rifle. For the price of Nathans kit l think it is well worth it. |
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@ 09:48 am (GMT) |
Warwick MarflittRe: The laziest way i could think ofWoah! She's a keen woman flogging his bolt for him? True love no's know bounds it wood seam?What model Sightron did you get? It was appliance white enamel from a truck crash for the mini. And rescue orange for the Ratson grass chaser. It was also called the "General flea". Yeah Nathans bedding compound is the ducks nuts for sure. I'll be doing my 35 Whelen after I've finished moving shop/home. Cheers Chris. |
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@ 08:27 pm (GMT) |
chris mooneyRe: The laziest way i could think ofTruck crash loot is the stuff of legends, l want to paint my house with road marking paint. It is a SI 1*20 sight, so fixed at zero magnification. I suspect his wife may be playing with him, but even if he 'finds' his bolt, he has a very good range setup, with a table and chair under a bridge and able to shoot out to 400m to a high flood bank, l will have a much better place to shoot next time. |
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