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Need some help with purchasing new rifle
@ 12:23 am (GMT) |
Mike NeesonHi Guys,I have a friend who is new to shooting and I am trying to guide him through purchasing his first centrefire. There has been a lot of "what about this?" questions. I have recommended a Rem700 or a Tikka T3 and we have both decided that 308 would be a good caliber to start - for many reasons. My problem is that he has a tight budget and with the current value of the USD, prices are up. He has asked me about a Haenel Jaeger 10 varmint (there are a couple advertised secondhand at good prices) and as another option I was thinking about either a BRNO ZKK601 or maybe a Zastava as an action he could build on. SO my questions are 1. Does anyone know what the Haenel action looks like out of the stock and is it an action worth keeping? 2. Any problems with getting a Zastava or 601 to shoot? And yes, he has committed to purchasing the books :) |
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@ 12:51 am (GMT) |
Bob MavinRe: Need some help with purchasing new rifleHi MikeI had an older Brno in 30-06, it shot very well, nice to use, I didn't even get around to bed it . Bob |
@ 02:30 am (GMT) |
Warwick MarflittRe: Need some help with purchasing new rifleHey Mike. Have you thought about ringing around the local gun dealer's seeing what second hand 308s they have on the rack and then inspecting the ones you like and any that look good test firing at a range to see what they do? You may get a good one that shoots for a good price? It involves some time to do but may save a few bucks. I like getting an unloved item and breathing new life into it. The Rem 700 or T3 options shouldn't cause too much grief to get sorted. |
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@ 03:11 am (GMT) |
Mike NeesonRe: Need some help with purchasing new rifleI had thought of that Warwick, hence the reason for asking about the brno, it's advertised on used guns at a good(?) price and piqued my interest.https://www.usedguns.com.au/Product.aspx?p=79284 Not sure if it's still available but it is an idea. We will have to go for a drive and spend some time rummaging through secondhand stock. I have to keep reminding myself it's not for me and it's something for my friend to get started on. |
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@ 04:30 am (GMT) |
Mike NeesonRe: Need some help with purchasing new rifleNot worrying about the Haenel anymore, we have had a chat and decided against it due to parts and accessories availability etc. (Phew) |
@ 06:34 am (GMT) |
Ben LawRe: Need some help with purchasing new rifleIf ur looking for a good cheap gun, u should definately look at a howa.Good outa the box and action worth keeping. Are the zastavas a win m70 clone? |
@ 07:41 am (GMT) |
Thomas KitchenRe: Need some help with purchasing new riflefrom my understanding the zastava is a mauser clone the mini mauser they sell m85? is actually a push feed but they leave a big lug on the bolt to look like an extractor, apparently they shoot well but the finish can be bit rough specially where you can't see it.i would look at both howa and ruger american. the newer howa ranchlands have a very thin profile barrel so keep this in mind. the howa's are a push feed mauser clone. one thing ill mention is when you rebarrel later on if its an older mauser type action it will cost slightly more as you'll need an extractor cut out. there's plenty of options as you can see. |
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@ 09:58 pm (GMT) |
Mike NeesonRe: Need some help with purchasing new rifleThank you all, will check out the Howa as well. |
@ 10:05 pm (GMT) |
Martin TaylorRe: Need some help with purchasing new rifleYep Howa's are still a great place to start.Cleavers have Howa 308w 20" fluted actions for about $500 Mike and classic Boyd's for $230 ish. Bed it and away he go's with a solid combo that is a great weight to learn with and all new! |
@ 11:36 pm (GMT) |
Nathan FosterRe: Need some help with purchasing new rifleA slight correction, the Howa is a clone of the traditional Sako design, but yes, a basic twin lug like a Mauser. Every bit as good as the original Sako but offered in stainless where the traditional Sako was never available in stainless steel. Sako moved to stainless at the same time as they adopted cost cutting techniques. The Howa is the 'Sako that could have been'. |
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@ 03:22 am (GMT) |
Mike NeesonRe: Need some help with purchasing new rifleThanks for the heads-up Martin, Howa in a Boyd's it is. With some bedding, lapped lugs, barrel run-in and matched ammo we should hopefully be close to passable! |
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@ 04:59 am (GMT) |
Martin TaylorRe: Need some help with purchasing new rifleIf it runs to the Howa average Mike .5 moa or real close is where it'll end up and he'd have to be happy with that!That Howa SS 30-06 bedding job l posted ages ago into the Boyd's is .5 without fuss and to be honest we've never tried for anymore using better pills & brass etc. l did all the usual "Foster tweaks" straight away for the owner. Long story but it is now my sons stalking rifle (upgraded from T3 308) with a SII on top and has performed flawlessly, great rifle-combo. My Howa 243 heavy was .4 and better all day, everyday, though our 223rem has taken a little more caressing (partly because l'm bloody fussy) & is now inside .5 with multiple loads. Most guys l talk to report well inside moa out of the box once they are run in, etc. |
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