@ 04:23 pm (GMT) |
Michael LangI know a guy that swears by this combo. He has used them for several years after having too many white tails run after being shot and another reloader turned him onto the 100gr hollow point. Just wondering if anyone else has tried this combo? |
@ 08:28 pm (GMT) |
Jonathan KittermanRe: Speer 100gr hollow point in 25-06Do you any details on the hunting situation such as distance, average deer size, etc? What was he using before and had problems and how does it compare to the wound database and cartridge information Nathan provides on Ballisticstudies? |
@ 09:30 pm (GMT) |
Michael LangRe: Speer 100gr hollow point in 25-06He had tried several bullets. The deer were always killed but would run off, sometimes quite a way. He has killed deer from point blank out to about 300 yards, all with dramatic results with the hollow point speer. Shot placement error has caused him to shoot one just in front of the hind quarter in the gut and it still ruptured vital organs. It supposedly looks like the deer doubles in weight at the moment you shoot it. The deer he has shot with it have always dropped in their tracks. |
@ 10:27 pm (GMT) |
Nathan FosterRe: Speer 100gr hollow point in 25-06Yes, pros and cons of the Speer HP. I have not used this bullet for many years now.The smallest bores do their best work when loaded fast. By using a frangible bullet, width of wounding can be increased along with nervous trauma. But this can go the other way, the bullet offering poor penetration on large bodied deer or especially wild boar and depending on bullet weight versus shot placement. Bullet weight is what it is, you either have enough or you don't. Shot placement is very much a traditional factor. Some folk aim for the shoulder, some behind. But as time has passed, I find that those who aim behind the shoulder are passing this on in a poor fashion. Following careful investigation, I have noticed that each consecutive generation of hunters are aiming more to the rear. Any shot placement error tends to end up as described in the above post. It is under these circumstances that full bullet 'blow up' becomes very useful. There is much to this and as I have said, hunting methods effect outcomes which is why one person will say that such and such a bullet is hopeless versus another who praises it. The Speer bullet is softer than the 90 and 100 grain Gameking and softer than the Nolser BT. It is the most rapid expanding design I have come across. These bullets also have some merit in slow cartridges but should not be mixed up with the TNT which as an irony, has a smaller HP than the basic "Speer hollow point Varmint". As an aside, I have seen a few blackout shooters get this mixed up. Personally, I would exercise some caution. I have seen some very shallow wounds with the various Speer HP bullets when they are mis-used. On other occasions, the wound is sufficient but the weight of the animal overcame the ability of the bullet to produce nervous trauma, resulting in long dead runs. So it really can go either way, depending on local game, ranges and methods. |
@ 10:38 pm (GMT) |
Michael LangRe: Speer 100gr hollow point in 25-06Thanks to all. I personally don't own a 25-06, and didn't see it in the database. I was just wondering about other's experiences with it. |