10 Dec 2019
@ 12:08 pm (GMT)
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bryan long
Re: Me or the Rifle, it's me
100 yards off small bag up front and backback behind with double sling wrap
the shooting bench may need some work too. I think the vertical spread was mostly down to poor rear bag support and position.
8 deer onto grass so far without taking a step, but all within 250 yards nothing long.
The bench is the typical position I'd shoot from so I'll work with that for the moment.
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14 Dec 2019
@ 01:03 pm (GMT)
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Michael Rayner
Re: Me or the Rifle, it's me
Well done, I have similar results with the Hornady TAP as well, have used it on pigs with very good performance. So far have shot out to 300 and still is 1/2MOA
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15 Dec 2019
@ 07:11 am (GMT)
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bryan long
Re: Me or the Rifle, it's me
Thanks Michael, reading your posts in the factory ammo thread got me focused to get more from the TAP with field rests.
Before coming on this site and reading the books I thought sub MOA was the limit for a hunting gun. That and that a rifle needs resting on a bipod and should only be touched with one hand.
Coming on here and seeing people's real world results is super helpful. I can't reload in Ireland so wouldn't have know that factory ammo can give results as low as the .3 and .25 MOA results.
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15 Dec 2019
@ 08:30 am (GMT)
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Frank Vallich
Re: Me or the Rifle, it's me
[quote]100 yards off small bag up front and backback behind with double sling wrap
the shooting bench may need some work too. I think the vertical spread was mostly down to poor rear bag support and position.
8 deer onto grass so far without taking a step, but all within 250 yards nothing long.
The bench is the typical position I'd shoot from so I'll work with that for the moment.
Appears to be a great spot! Spotting and shooting! Judging from the photo.
After reading Nathan's books (plural) the bipod was gone. The rifle action was accurarized and the confidence increaed with better and then best accuracy.
Hornady Zmax 168 , Barnes 168 and finally dialing in the rifle for ELD X 178 being the best. A day pack with items for overnight camping and shooting off with no rear bag support, sling wrap and shoulder support being utilized. Noticed if I shot off a hard object in the day pack the impact on target was higher depending on the harmonics.
Firing the 178 was a learning curve as the recoil required adjustment to the ability of being able to squeeze off a round and watch it impact the target. Intial shots I was not following the impact just as I wasn't follwing bullet impact until practicing the methods that are described in the books.
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17 Dec 2019
@ 10:42 am (GMT)
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bryan long
Re: Me or the Rifle, it's me
I can only hold 200 rounds so i'm burning through the 168 TAP hunting.
My barrel is 1-10 twist so I'm hoping the 178 ELD X goes well in it too
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17 Dec 2019
@ 10:55 am (GMT)
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bryan long
Re: Me or the Rifle, it's me
another group same day 168 TAP, 20 mm edge to edge
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17 Dec 2019
@ 11:19 am (GMT)
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Frank Vallich
Re: Me or the Rifle, it's me
Bryan, 1 in 10 twist won't be an issue. I've a 1 in 12 twist, 26 inch 4 land barrel. Would appreciate knowing the point of impact of the 178 ELD X in comparison to the 168s. The rifle in use shot 3 inches high and Approximately 1.5 inch to the right.
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21 Dec 2019
@ 03:57 pm (GMT)
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Mike R
Re: Me or the Rifle, it's me
lets see if this works
new 308 168gr TAP
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25 Dec 2019
@ 12:40 am (GMT)
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bryan long
Re: Me or the Rifle, it's me
looks like it worked quadruple Tap
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