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Gerard SmithHi here in the UK (Scotland) are in the process of being forced to change from lead to none bullets and ammunitions for hunting , have used none lead to take red fox i have found this is not a good option for a clean kill, my usual round is home loaded Hornady V-Max in 55gr for Roe Deer and Red Fox, Kill is quick but the none lead Hornady GMX and the none Lead Fox Bullet heads do not give me a good clean kill that i would wish for the later more so and the bullets passes straight through. |
@ 02:32 pm (GMT) |
Joel MachaRe: none lead bulletstake a look at the Underwood ammo Controlled Chaos loads. solid copper bullet designed for maximum damage. good test video of this ammo on you tube by Iraqveteran8888. might work for you. |
@ 03:08 am (GMT) |
Lane SalvatoRe: none lead bulletsGerard, I don't know if you can get them in Scotland but Dynamic Research Technologies makes a bullet that is a proven killer. If you can get them there either by shipping or by retail it would be worth exploring Nathan's research into them both in the latest cartridges book, and on his video's with the 308 and the 300 WM. Normally they sell 223 directly on their website.I've used them myself and know them to work as frangible lead-free projectiles. |
@ 03:15 am (GMT) |
Lane SalvatoRe: none lead bulletsGerard, I don't know what I was thinking in not mentioning this in my initial reply but Nosler makes lead-free frangible bullets in some varmint calibers which is what I think you're after. They may be easier to get than DRT. They are both very good. I know that there is a European maker of this type of projectile because I remember reading about it but it was more than a year ago. Good luck and let us know how your search resolves! |
@ 06:07 am (GMT) |
Magnus VassbotnRe: none lead bulletsThe RWS Evo Green (frangible tin core) might be that European bullet you are reffering to, Lane? I haven't tested them in flesh, but they could be worth a try if you can get hold of them, Gerard. Break away brass bullets (Lehigh, Cutting Edge etc) are popping up all over these days, so you will probably find some if you try. There is a Danish manufacturer by the name of DK bullets, among others.I've shot some plains game and deer with custom brass bullets in 45-70, and they are ok, to a certain point. Not the low velocity performance of truly frangible bullets, but better than 100% weight retaining copper bullets (at low velocity). In 223 at moderate ranges they might be ok. But that's just a guess, and a very rough generalization. |
@ 10:16 am (GMT) |
Scott StruifRe: none lead bulletshttps://youtu.be/mQH-NBiweXw |
@ 05:44 pm (GMT) |
Magnus VassbotnRe: none lead bulletsThat bullet in the video looks like an RWS Evo Green, loaded by Norma. Or maybe they just made their own version.They speak of "longer ranges" in there. Keep in mind that these bullets are so light for caliber, that even with a fairly good shape, BCs are very low. Even with very high muzzle velocities, effective killing range (impact velocity and wind drift) is therefore probably in most cases quite modest, despite the pre-fragmented core. |