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Sako 85 wooden stock bedding question
@ 07:26 am (GMT) |
Stanislas GuerraHi,Sako motto is "Demand Perfection". Yes, you can ask, It does not mean you will get It. I'd like to try a bedding on my Sako 85 Hunter as a last ditch effort. The article published by Nathan is a gold mine and I think I have deciphered most of it but there is few things I'd like to clarify concerning the front end. My first question is: Since the metal plate has to be cut in 3 pieces and only the middle one (with the cut for the action lug) to be kept, does the recess in the wood (where the to-be-ditched front end of the piece with the kind of lug fits) has to be filled with compound? The image in the article: 
Any help much appreciated. |
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@ 07:53 am (GMT) |
Nathan FosterRe: Sako 85 wooden stock bedding questionHi Stanislas, its anyone's guess what you have in there. It could be the sheet metal plate, the L shaped lug or as happened here in NZ with some - nothing at all (followed by denials from Berretta who blamed the hunters for losing their lugs). Whatamistakatomaka.If you have the sheet metal lug, biff it (I mean the lug not the rifle though the latter is optional). Once its gone, set it up in the same manner as the Sako A7 which in turn is a copy of the Tikka T3. Use an actual T3 lug or a piece of ali or stainless bar stock. Note, there is no need to go the full deepth of a Tikka lug, it really only needs to protrude down about 12mm / .5" - as opposed to the 25mm normally employed. Basically, there is no need to cut the effing gun in half to fit a recoil lug. If yours has the L shaped lug, you can either carve it up as shown in the image or just set it aside and again use a shallow Tikka lug. Of the two methods, the fitting of a shallow Tikka lug is perhaps preferable. Any large recess will have to be filled either prior to or during bedding. You will also have to create a new lug recess if employing a Tikka lug. There may be photos of the A7 assembly on the website (perhaps even in the stabilizer instructions). If you cannot find it there, photos of this rifle and bedding are in the accurizing book. I have also made a video on bedding the T3 which can be found in the shopping section of the site and can be used when employing a Tikka lug in conjunction with the Sako 85. Hopefully it comes right. There is a possibility of making mistakes and having to start over so settle in for the long haul and just go with the process for as long as it takes. The barrel should hopefully be fine and eventually produce good results - unless it is one of the fluted lightweights with aspirations to become a balloon animal. |
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@ 08:16 am (GMT) |
Stanislas GuerraRe: Sako 85 wooden stock bedding questionOk, thanks for the swift response.Mine is like the one on the right (I haven't removed yet but from the outside this is the one). I don't know if it qualify as L-Shaped, sheet-metal plate or both! My understanding was that the middle part of that piece to still serve as recess for the small square lug in the action (the one receiving the bolt) and to be "drowned" in a pool of compound. But maybe I will ditch the damn thing, buy a Blaser and go hunting. |
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@ 08:17 am (GMT) |
Stanislas GuerraRe: Sako 85 wooden stock bedding questionSorry for the huge picture... |
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@ 08:47 am (GMT) |
Nathan FosterRe: Sako 85 wooden stock bedding questionThe one on the right is yet another iteration. If you can remove it, just set it aside and bed as per the Tikka T3 / A7.The problem will be whether you can remove it. Both of the lugs you showed in the photos were eventually epoxied and screwed to the wood stock as yet another on the fly attempt to correct poor accuracy. If yours is epoxied, you need to break the bond but without burning the wood. Try heating up a small piece of metal till its near red hot, then simply lay this on the plate for 30 seconds and let the heat migrate from one part to the other. Working on this certainly poses a mix of pros and cons. The 85 is poorly designed, but there remains an opportunity to gain skills, confidence, self empowerment by working on it. On the other hand, why clean up Sako's mess, after all, it merely encourages them. Hard to say which is the right or wrong way to go. Its really up to you. |
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@ 09:21 am (GMT) |
Stanislas GuerraRe: Sako 85 wooden stock bedding questionOh boy,The more I dig the more I hit another layer of shit. Maybe swapping for a 3rd-party stock will be easier (I have thrown so much money by the window in ammunition selection...)? The like of KKC or GRS. It still need a bedding but I guess the starting point is less shitty? |
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@ 07:43 am (GMT) |
Nathan FosterRe: Sako 85 wooden stock bedding questionHi Stanislas, that is up to you. If you can find an aftermarket stock, then you have nothing to lose if you hack into this one and make some catastrophic mistake.Again, it is a tough call because on the one hand it is a flawed design. But on the other, the trend these days is to simply buy a solution. But as many are now learning. one must take great care when buying aftermarket items these days as these can be equally poor. However, if you can find a straight recoiling stock design that has not been overly molested by people who like to use the word innovation a lot, it might provide a good bedding platform to work with and superior ergonomics, both of which may help to improve accuracy. Please, do take care when buying aftermarket. Recently I helped a hunter rectify a very expensive custom rifle mishap involving the supposedly excellent / highly popular Bifrost stock. It took a great deal of effort to fix the problems encountered. It really knocked the guy around as this was supposed to be something special which he had saved for. As a company practice, I would suggest that selling an item like this for a premium price is not much better than one of those phone scammers who robs the elderly of their savings. It is somewhat ironic that Sako started out refurbishing captured rifles, reassembling and tuning the Mosin in order to obtain better performance. A century later, it is the Sako rifle that needs refurbishment. |
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