@ 03:42 am (GMT) |
deerndingoHi All,I'm slowly doing up a Rem 700SPS. I was wondering about the trigger. Its OK at the moment, but I just wonder if a Timney or such in set trigger format would be good. I like having about 2.5lb for general hunting and light for real accurate work. Maybe the set trigger could do the trick. Opinions called for? Thanks |
@ 04:15 am (GMT) |
mark whiteleyRe: Set triggers: What about them?I agree it could do the trick,I like them for the added safety when you want a super light trigger but still like to be able to put the weight of my finger on before the trigger lets go, I have them on old brno's in 17ackley and have a keplinger on a mauser great trigger best regards mark |
@ 05:14 pm (GMT) |
Nathan FosterRe: Set triggers: What about them?Hi Danny, when I am teaching clients to shoot, I like them to shoot at around 1.5lb. The client trains and trains until he is fully familiar with this trigger weight. Ideally, the client will learn to utilize this setting for both snap shooting and precision work. It becomes a standard procedure.One thing we sometimes fail to fully comprehend is that it does not matter whether a trigger is 1.5lb or 7lb- firearms are dangerous and should always be treated so. I have written in the next book, that setting a trigger to a heavy "safe" weight is to a great extent an illusion. There is no safe setting of a loaded rifle. This is proven in the recent incident in NZ where a police officer accidentally shot an offender in custody. The rifle was a Bushmaster AR and these have a very heavy two stage trigger. The second stage is both heavy and creepy like a Mosin. OK, so we can take pot shots at this officer and bag him to hell for this that and the other- or we can learn from this ourselves. Having said all of this, I do find that the very light settings (1lb or less) can be dangerous in cold conditions if there is any loss in feeling at the fingertips. If the shot goes off early and game animals are near a skyline but not on the sky line, the shot may still go over the skyline due to ignition well before the shooter is ready. I have also found that in some instances (cold weather again as an example), accuracy is worsened at these trigger settings. In this regard, I see no need for a set hair trigger. Obviously, there are limits to my methods. You would not want to give an untrained shooter a rifle with a very light trigger- without ongoing training. In some instances, younger men simply lack the ability to focus their attention on shooting methods, all mouth, no brains (actually that can effect any age group!). Complacency can also occur with experience. The more experienced you are, the more you think you have everything down pat. So you have to take what I say as being a part of the picture. Both two stage triggers and set triggers can be very useful as pre-shooting steps. That said, the same mistakes can occur. A good friend of mine was put through hell when a newbie loaded my friends Newton rifle and set the trigger upon seeing a deer, failed to unload the rifle after the false alarm, then slipped over and due to the less than 1lb setting, the vibrations of the rifle hitting the ground set it off. The newbie grabbed the muzzle as the rifle hit the ground (palm over muzzle). It was a terrible experience for both men. The lesson is the same as I initially stated, firearms should be treated as dangerous at all times. Something we have to keep reminding ourselves of. |
@ 07:02 pm (GMT) |
Kenney CrockettRe: Set triggers: What about them?Could the same have happened with a 1.5lb trigger? Or have you found that weight to be safe when a rifle is dropped? |
@ 07:36 pm (GMT) |
Nathan FosterRe: Set triggers: What about them?I test to make sure that they are safe when dropped and have provided detailed instructions on my procedures in the book.By the way, the shopping pages are all ready go and we are set for a Monday morning book Launch- (U.S Sunday). |
@ 04:04 pm (GMT) |
Jim MoseleyRe: Set triggers: What about them?I prefer my Jewell trigger so I can easily adjust as the seasons change. 1 pound during the warm weather and so slowly adjust up as winter approaches. |
@ 08:22 pm (GMT) |
John SmithRe: Set triggers: What about them?My 1966 Mannlicher Model 1961 MCA carbine in .270 has a double set triggerwhich I like and have never had an accident with. I do not walk around with the front trigger set. It's the last thing I do before taking that carefully placed hunting shot.. Between the triggers is a small regulating screw to adjust the set trigger pull between zero and three ounces. I'm not sure what it is set at but whatever it is it suits me. The rear trigger sets the front trigger. To unset the front trigger I make sure the rifle is in a safe direction and then I open the bolt part way and press the front trigger. Another way is to make sure the safety is in the safe position and pull the front trigger. The rifle remains cocked with either method. Someday I will take it to a gun- smith and have him tell me the pull. |