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Pics and questions for you Nathan
@ 02:53 am (GMT) |
Craig HenardHi Nathan I have Just got the Remington 700 Long Range 7mm magnum rifle back from the Remington factory(I sent it to them to check Headspace and a couple of other issues).I haven,t had the oppertunity to shoot it yet but here are some things I have noticed and wanted to ask you about. In one of the Pics it shows the wear from firing at the factory on the aluminum Bedding block of the Bell and Carlson M40 stock,in another of the pics it shows wear at the tang,another pic shows the Minimal contact of the recoil lug. My questions are concerning the wear on the bedding block,should I smooth the area which shows the contact so as to accellorate the Mating of the action to the bedding block? The recoil lug appears to just barely be making contact in the lug recess, I suppose that needs to be addressed BEFORE testing The factory loads I will be shooting? If so what way would you recommend?I dont have the Money left after the purchase of this rifle and ammo ! The pic aren,t great but I think will suffice. Thanks Craig   
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@ 02:59 am (GMT) |
Craig HenardRe: Pics and questions for you NathanTried to take a better pic of the recoil lug area,seems to be bearing only really close to the barrel as indicated by the shiny area.
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@ 04:12 am (GMT) |
thomas kitchenRe: Pics and questions for you Nathanhi craig cant see completely from picture but is action recoilling (moving back and forwards) in the stock when its fired? |
@ 09:27 am (GMT) |
Mike NeesonRe: Pics and questions for you NathanFrom the looks of it, the shiney spots are where the action is making contact with the stock bedding block. As the rifle fires, the vibrations of the action rub on the contact spots and polish them. This can all be solved by bedding the action in match grade bedding compound. It will give the action the proper support it needs - not just a couple of contact points.Read this http://www.ballisticstudies.com/Knowledgebase/What+is+rifle+bedding.html Nathan has some good videos on how it is accomplished and will practically lead you by the hand as you use his product - excellent support. Hope this helps PS this is not unusual at all. Just about all factory rifles will only have a few points of contact with the stock. It is too time consuming for them to exactly match the action and the stock |
@ 02:28 pm (GMT) |
Nathan FosterRe: Pics and questions for you NathanHi Craig, as Mike said, I have talked about this in the videos and books. To achieve an optimum fit, the rifle will need to be bedded. What you are seeing is quite normal. If left, two very shiny bars will appear like saddle bars.You could dremel and shape the ali block but this will not fix the gap between the recoil lug band block. As Mike said, the factories do not have the time to hand fit as this would jack prices up exponentially. Your rifle is perfectly normal. As and when time and funds allow, you can set about bedding. I have also noticed that the forend on this model can be a tad slippery. It pays to either tape and paint (my third book) or add some rubber impregnated marine grip tape to the forend, otherwise fliers will be evident as a result of human error. |
@ 05:46 pm (GMT) |
Martin TaylorRe: Pics and questions for you NathanHi Craig,as the guys have already said this is all normal, all the Rem 700 series in these stocks will be the same. Both the rifle & stock are mass produced, so build tolerances in both will affect the fit up. As my old boss used to say “it fits where it hits”. Your photo of the recoil lug well is hard to see but the contact looks even across the face so you are in with a good start. Bedding with Nathans products and guidance will finish this gun off nicely! Until you can afford this try a few rounds at the range on a cleaned barrel, it may surprise you as to how well it shoots. But before you tackle any of this l would advise you get a copy of Nathans first & third books. These are full of info to help you with your setting up of this rig, along with tunning & trouble shooting the rifle (as you are doing right now!) including bedding, and all very affordable. Read the comments across this forum and on the book pages, a great resource. |
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@ 11:36 pm (GMT) |
Craig HenardRe: Pics and questions for you NathanThanks Thomas,Mike,Martin and Nathan.Nathan I was able to get the XMark pro down to 1 3/4 pounds pull per your instructions in the book(bolt action rifle accurizing and maintenance) I will find some rubber backed tape for the forend of the stock as you suggested. Nathan.even though in the video of your bedding it show a V block chassis of the HS stock and mine is the Bell and Carlson that is not a Vblock and more rounded ,the process is the same ?I am a little gunshy of removing metal from the aluminum block !! LOL Can just the lug be bedded? When torquing the stock bolts is there a preference as to how they are tightened in the unbedded stock? In other words is it recomended to make sure the front(toward the muzzle)screw is tightened first to make sure the the lug and reciever are snugged against the ali block first ,then tighten the rear screw ? or does it make a huge amount of difference? The front screw seems to become tighter faster than the rear screw. The front screw goes from snug to tight in less than 1/2 turn whereas the rear screw starts feeling snug then takes a little more than 3/4 turn to get tight. PS . I tried the 1 oclock test as you mention in the first book with no issues. Thanks Craig |
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@ 03:23 am (GMT) |
Nathan FosterRe: Pics and questions for you NathanHi Craig, the stock in the videos is not a V block- its identical to the B&C. They are built to the same mil spec.No major pref on screws, just nip both up, then tighten both, alternating. Don't try to just bed the lug- potential dogs breakfast. Thats your nerves talking. We all go through that. Just one step at a time- breathe. |
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@ 01:40 am (GMT) |
thomas kitchenRe: Pics and questions for you Nathanhi craigsounds like you got an interesting project on the go keep us updated. may i suggest getting out if possible and shooting your rifle enjoying it and shooting some groups that way you'll have a base line to, so when you work on it you can see what makes best improvements and it'll give you some confidence that your going down the right track. |
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