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270 loads for woods use
@ 01:06 am (GMT) |
john feyereisni am looking ahead to next year in repect to my deer hunting spot, i have a few ideas for stand locations that are in smaller clearings in the woods and ravines with a max range of under 100 yds. one potental stand area is right next to a chest deep swamp, i sure dont want them to go very far into that. i am hunting whitetail deer in northern mn a big one might go 200 lbs, small does maybee just over 100. on hand i have 130, 150 and 160 partitions 130,150 ballistic tips 130,150 interlocks and ssts.would i be crazy to try 160 semi point partitions? i was kind of leaning towards 150 partitions but it would be nice to try something diferent. any thoughts are welcome! if i could shoot a deer with each one i would but i only get one tag per year! |
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@ 01:30 am (GMT) |
Bob MavinRe: 270 loads for woods useHi JohnAt that range 100yds max, take your pick they'll all do it. I don't think I'd use the 160's. If you neck shoot them 130's will do the job without losing much meat. I'd probably use the 130 partitions if they shoot well. Cheers Bob |
@ 07:30 am (GMT) |
Mike DavisRe: 270 loads for woods useI CAN finally answer a question with 100% certainty that I know what is ok.....Ive used my .20 for nearly 30 years and alot of that is bush hunting....for years Ive used 130grn pills as got recoil shy...after reading Nathans great knowledge base I am slowly getting around to 150s (but not entirely yet) my pet bush load is a 170 grain speer round nose...very old projectiles no longer made..... they work well,the 160 grn lapua Megas worked well for me too...the 150 grn partition that son shot hind with impressed me no end. my way of looking at it is a big heavy pill just HAS to be better in the scrub. Ive shot a red hind THROUGH mikimiki scrubbery as I had confidence it would do it.......and that is where it stands for me...big heavy for up close and in thick crap and lighter faster accurate load for in the open. cant see why the 160s wont be awesome and should give you confidence if piss poor angle is all you have on a trophy animal...you know,south end of a north bound buck about to disappear....Ive shot enough deer fair up the jacksee with the .270 to know it will do the bizo if needed,and a decent heavy projectile will do it much better than a light one, with possible exception being a barnes type, where a lightish one has the ability to stay together and drive through rather than break up. |
@ 08:14 am (GMT) |
Thomas KitchenRe: 270 loads for woods usehi john.one thing that im wondering is do you shoot through the shoulders to anchor the animal or just behind to save the shoulder meat? i do like the 150gr interlocks but they are a soft projectile so you might have trouble if you hit shoulder or have to take a quarter on shot. havent had a chance to even do load developement for the 150gr sst's i got so can't tell you anything Nathan doesn't in his book. partitions would be a good choice or the 150gr speer hotcors perhaps? even the mono style bullets or interbonds if your worried about bullet blow up |
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@ 10:49 am (GMT) |
Bob MavinRe: 270 loads for woods useI should know better than post a comment late in the evening.I've shot hundreds of Rusa deer with a 22RF, head shots at 60m can't remember a failure. 100yds max with a 270 Win from a stand, bloody hell, use whatever pill you have, if you can't pull it off, take up ping pong, you shouldn't be hunting. |
@ 09:19 pm (GMT) |
Nathan FosterRe: 270 loads for woods useWhat a grumpy old bastard. Time you took a trip up north to Thailand for your own game of ping pong.
I believe John is simply trying to learn more about his .270 Win as he has been around the block a few times as far as hunting goes. But, Thomas's comments need to be considered. As you pointed out Bob, shot placement is everything but along with this, shot placement is effected by culture as I wrote in the cartridges book and as Thomas pointed out. In the extreme we can head shoot. I know that you Bob, often shoot to strike the forwards shoulder with the 06. In other cultures (and among young folk as you have seen Bob), the common POI is now behind the shoulder. So one the one hand, we can play with cartridge killing power but it is wise to think about shot placement too. If you want to play with max killing power John, do try to work up 2900-2950fps loads with a 150gr bullet such as your Partition. The 160gr can be very good but you will hit 2600fps pretty quickly with a very slight change in performance thereafter. Kills will still be clean but may be delayed if you do not keep shots well forwards on lean animals. I would expect a dead run of 50 yards with a rear lung shot using the 160gr at 2800fps MV, ranges 100 to 150 yards. Bob gives another option with the 130gr run at full speeds for neck shots but I believe you were looking to explore heavier loads. Few people really do explore heavy loads in the .270 yet it is well worth investigating. Back to your cornflakes puzzle Bob. 
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@ 10:07 pm (GMT) |
Bob MavinRe: 270 loads for woods usePlease forgive me, I'd had a hard day! :)I grew up having to get the job done, make the best of whatever I had on hand and use it within its limits, it makes you a better hunter. As for me!!!! No more checking posts before retiring. How did you get my bloody photo Nathan? Cheers Bob |
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@ 03:50 am (GMT) |
john feyereisnRe: 270 loads for woods useBob and Nathan,I can understand the desire to harvest as much meat as possible, but i want the deer dead as fast as possible first, there are other hunters in the area off and on and some terrain that is hard to recover animals from. the farther the deer travels the more likely you are to loose it simple as that. this meat saver shot is a bunch of crap, i want the highest chance of a bang flop. head shooting? I am not that hardcore of a deer sniper, not because i am against it, its just to small of a target most of the time, unless everything is perfect. On the deer i took last year i was 15 feet up in a tree and the deer was 30 feet away walking slowly straight away, and i chose to shoot it in the neck, with a 150 ballistic tip from my 7 rem mag, severing the spinal cord, windpipe and jugular vein. it worked great, but that opportunity doesnt always present itself. Thanks for keeping it interesting! Honest and funny Bob. Rifle season is over for me, so i am thinking outloud on what to do next year. I am the only bullet nerd in my hunting group so its either come here and bug you guys or really go play ping pong. muzleloader season is coming, but shooting big chunks of lead just doesnt ask much of a projectile. |
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@ 04:58 am (GMT) |
Mike DavisRe: 270 loads for woods useyou cant drive you car very well with no front wheelsa deer is no different, of all the deer Ive shot with the .270 over the years the only ones that moved any distance WERENT shot through one or both front shoulders..... since our son dropped his first deer on the spot last year I have upped my game (funny that) and the deer since then havent gone more than 10 feet after shot. and you dont loose a lot of meat from a shoulder hit...if you really fussy maybe 4" that is dodgy for mince....heck I usually eat right up to bullet holes. |
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@ 05:10 am (GMT) |
Mike DavisRe: 270 loads for woods usehttp://huntingnut.com/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=10008hopefully link works ok Slimjim had done a heck of alot of testing with all sorts of projectiles, I believe his wet book and waterjug etc etc is a reasonable compromise and he sure is thorough. worth a look and food for thought. |
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@ 05:24 am (GMT) |
Bob MavinRe: 270 loads for woods useHi JohnFrom side on, I aim high on the shoulder level with the front of the front leg, they drop on the spot. Bob |
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