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Tim KingI have been reading and living by the information in the cartridge knowledge base here since 2012. I shoot mostly Hornady amax and eld bullets and like the quick killing fragmentation that they exibit. However there is a drawback and that is meat destruction. When placing that shot around the shoulder ie. Right on, In front, or right behind the shoulder I have a lot of meat loss on the animals I have shot when shots are shorter than expected. Im trying to mitigate meat loss and still have a bullet that will quickly and effectively kill the animals I shoot. Im in the western US and the three main animals I shoot are whitetail deer (approximately 150-200lbs) mule deer (approximately 200-300lbs) and antelope(less than 150lbs), on occasion I get to hunt Elk. I shoot a variety of calibers and cartridges from the 6.5/47 lapua to the 338 rum. But most of my hunting is with a 270 Winchester, 280AI, 7mm wsm, 308, 300 wsm, or 300 win mag. I have avoided monolithic bullets because they typically have poor BC numbers and have been notoriously bad at killing game effectively. However recently Cutting-edge and Badlands precision have put out some bullets with impressive BC numbers and supposed better expansion. What experience can I expect with these bullets at extended range? I have thought about loading two different rounds to hunt with and keeping a close range round loaded in the rifle for unexpected close shots out to 300yds max. And then leaving the rifle set up to run a long range ELDM bullet for the longer shots where a softer bullet is needed. However, if these new monolithic bullets actually live up toThe hype it might be worth a switch. |
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Scott StruifRe: Monolithic Super bullets?Hi Tim. Theres been exhaustive discussion of copper bullets on this forum over the past couple years. The Search forums function isnt working on my device at the moment, but if you page through the topics under the Rifles general discussion heading youll find them. Cutting Edge has been discussed, as well as others that purport to lose petals. Badlands Precision doesnt ring a bell. The general consensus is theyre fine for close-in shoulder shots if youre confident of hitting bone, which would defeat your goal of saving meat. If youre planning to utilize meat-saver, rear-lung shots, maybe look at the Long-Range Accubond for high-BC coupled with controlled weight-shedding to avoid lead contamination of shoulder meat. Norma has a lead-free frangible bullet containing compressed tin. DRT has one with compressed copper. |
@ 06:25 am (GMT) |
Tim KingRe: Monolithic Super bullets?My search for cutting-edge bullets returned zero results and the search for monolithic bullets returned nothing as well. |
@ 06:27 am (GMT) |
Tim KingRe: Monolithic Super bullets?I have used and like the long range accubond 150gr in my 270 Winchester it has performed well but it has the same meat loss issues that the Hornady bullets have. |
@ 07:56 am (GMT) |
Scott StruifRe: Monolithic Super bullets?Yeah, the Search isnt working. But if you click Discussion forum, then Rifles general discussion, you can view the topic titles. For instance, theres one on the first page entitled none lead bullets. |
@ 08:03 am (GMT) |
Scott StruifRe: Monolithic Super bullets?If you go to page 3 of the list of topics theres one entitled Lehigh Defense Controlled Chaos. |
@ 09:51 am (GMT) |
Mike DavisRe: Monolithic Super bullets?Tim......you have a .270 winchester...THAT I can talk to as have owned and used one for 30 plus years....the 110grn Barnes TSX is good...not fantastic,but good. DO NOT try using monos at range...thats just dumb, you already have it sorted. load up some monos and work out where your POI will be and duel load...use monos for spook n shoot/close range and your other load out long.... so far Ive killed a red stag at about 150yards a red hind at 40ish yards and bro in law took to chammy with one shot at 200ish...all died quick enough with minimal meat loss.... they dont do anything a old school cup n core cant do better.if you punch in figures you will find the 110grn beats anything heavier by considerable margin untill you get out to 300ish yards,by which point you shouldnt be using monos anyway. pretty sure a 110-130 mono will be just as efficent in your .30 calibres in same role. Bush Hobbit out. |
@ 01:48 pm (GMT) |
Lane SalvatoRe: Monolithic Super bullets?Why dont you use Nosler Partitions or Swifts as the second bullet? Still get some controlled expansion with out the problems associated with Monos? |