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Trying to Select a Scope
@ 03:05 pm (GMT) |
Stuart TalbotI've got a .300 WM. It was wearing a Nikon, but I decided to have the gun pillar bedded as well as glass bedded so I removed the scope. The barrel is free-floated.Although nowhere near ready, I hope to be able to go 1000 yards one day with this gun. I'm looking for a new scope. My budget is quite limited, at 400-600 American. As a Hunter Education Instructor, I can get Leupold for 50% off msrp and Vortex for 40% off msrp. And, I'm also checking out Sightron STAC. I'm going at this as if I've never shot a rifle before, looking for advice. So, an STAC or a $1000-$1200 scope from one of the other two manufacturers for roughly the same cost of the STAC? I'm only familiar with Leupold, when looking at the three brands. I've read great stuff about the STAC, and heard good reports on some of the Vortex. Gimme some feedback? |
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@ 02:55 pm (GMT) |
Bryan WebsterRe: Trying to Select a ScopeTo be honest, I would personally just put the Nikon scope back on and hunt with it until you can afford a decent scope , rings and mounts. If you are seriously going to try target and/or game shots out to 1000 yards, you will have to learn how to shoot out farther a step at a time, while learning proper technique and that takes a lot of time and shooting to accomplish.A lot of people waste a pile of money buying all kinds of low end scopes one after another until the light goes on and they save their money and buy a good one and the issue is they could have bought once and cried once in place of spending nearly twice as much as needed. I was guilty of this for years too. |
@ 07:48 pm (GMT) |
Thomas KitchenRe: Trying to Select a Scopehi Stuarti own 2 stac's and i am happy with them, i now own 5 sightrons and am very happy with all of them. i don't trust vortex to much these days, i think they grew to quick and have few issues with quality. had a mate buy one and his mate manage to break it on the way home playing with the dials!! they replaced it as they always do but its bit of a hassle. |
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@ 03:12 am (GMT) |
Stuart TalbotRe: Trying to Select a ScopeThanks for the replies. Bryan, I may do just that, but replace current base and rings with something different. I've got the traditional Leupold two piece bases and rings. Going to look at maybe a Warne or Nightforce one piece base for starters. |
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@ 06:57 am (GMT) |
Bryan WebsterRe: Trying to Select a ScopeHave a good look at the Tally rings and bases. Nightforce are good as well.As Thomas has said above, the S-Tac scopes are decent and are also affordable. |
@ 07:45 am (GMT) |
Nathan FosterRe: Trying to Select a ScopeGuys, please be careful with the Talley rings, the vertical split design can damage a scope badly if the action screw holes / bases are not well aligned. Vertical split rings cannot be lapped. I suggested avoiding if at all possible.Just remember that when educating, you may not be using your own kit for teaching, but it nevertheless pays to lead by example in your approach to purchasing. Buying at the bottom end is not always the best example, nor is having the fanciest of kit just for the sake of name dropping brands. Be very weary of forums when 'researching' as most are fraught with errors in how / why etc (also including the subject of rifle bedding). I see that you have my shooting book, this is the last book in the series that tied the others together. It features a discourse on optics and you will see the basic brand I have been using for some years now along with reticle info at the rear of the book. As far as budget scopes go, there have been some very good deals on the S-TAC 4-20 MOA model. I have been running this on my .308 for just over a year now. |
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@ 01:38 pm (GMT) |
Stuart TalbotRe: Trying to Select a ScopeNathan, I probably asked for the wrong books in the series for Christmas: Reloading and Accurizing/Maintenance. I'll have to go back and get the Rifles and Cartidges books.Thanks for the replies. |
@ 01:32 am (GMT) |
Paul LevermanRe: Trying to Select a ScopeStuart - there is no "wrong" when it comes to these books. Each one is valuable in it's own right. No matter which one you get, you will read and re-read it over and over. There is a lot of knowledge to absorb. And besides, you have a birthday coming up, so there's the reason to fill in the series. |
@ 04:16 am (GMT) |
John BarrRe: Trying to Select a ScopeHi Stuart. I recommend scope atn x-sight II hd 5-20x (https://www.atncorp.com/smart-hd-weapon-sight). This universal sight allows you to hunt day and night, besides it is relative inexpensive. |
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@ 07:55 am (GMT) |
Nathan FosterRe: Trying to Select a ScopeIf you put a 2.5" eye relief scope on a .300 Win mag, you will go home with a bruise, or a cut and flinch. And I doubt that camcorder scope would last long in NZ conditions, nor is the pixelation acceptabple for true long range work. So before anyone gets any ideas about bringing such a unit here for one of my tutorials, I want you to mentally picture what it would look like to see me unscrew your scope from its bases and throw it over one of the very high cliffs here. Got that picture in your head? Good. Now I know you will think twice before presenting new equipment to me. |
@ 09:38 pm (GMT) |
Warwick MarflittRe: Trying to Select a ScopeLol such a poet Nathan! 😆 . |
@ 01:05 pm (GMT) |
Lane SalvatoRe: Trying to Select a ScopeUnbelievable! Nathan, your patience knows no bounds. |
@ 11:10 pm (GMT) |
Ben LawRe: Trying to Select a Scopeill throw my 2 bobs worth in for your amusement.if your in the u.s.? you could look at the swfa super sniper 10x42, fixed mag but 4" eye relief, built tough and reliable! I would have one if I could get one from the u.s. but they wont send them overseas. its a shame vortex get an ordinary wrap on some forums these days, I have a 6-24x50 viper and its my favourite scope, I find the reticle great I think its called ebr1moa or something, anyway it has 1 moa hash marks, maybe I just got a good one, or perhaps it will fail on me oneday and ill change my mind. I have a sightron s3 6-24x50 moa2 retical which has been good so far aswell as a bushnell elite tactical 6-24x50 mildot and some smaller bushnell elite tactical mildots which I find good too, I have actually shot my tightest groups with 2 of the bushnells. If I was to buy another scope I would probably be looking at nightforce and sightron first and maybe bushnell. no point looking into budget scopes really, you will only want to upgrade it shortly, I have been there and done that, and I think I have learn my lesson. |
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@ 10:23 am (GMT) |
Stuart TalbotRe: Trying to Select a ScopeI'm still researching. The STAC remains in the running, as well as Leupold Mark 4. I ended up with another .300, a 94 Sendero. Probably should have applied that money to glass, but first gen Senderos don't just pop up everyday! So it becomes the new long range platform. |
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@ 10:55 am (GMT) |
Lane SalvatoRe: Trying to Select a ScopeTo me it's either Sightron SIII or Nightforce. I can't afford Nightforce so I have a Sightron SIII. Between repeatability, clarity, and eye relief I see no other reason to consider anything else. I understand STAC has looked good so far too so I understand it's consideration. |
@ 11:04 am (GMT) |
Bob MavinRe: Trying to Select a ScopeCheck out Tract Toric Love mine |
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@ 02:31 pm (GMT) |
Stuart TalbotRe: Trying to Select a ScopeGonna look at Tract. I can get the Leupold MK4 3.5-10 X 40 for about the same price as a Sightron SIII 3.5-10 X 44. Being in the US, Leupold is king. Also looking at mounting systems. Doing this differently than I've ever done it with a rifle. Still trying to wrap my brain around the mil system. Gonna study the section in the book on all that.Another buddy of mine is real high on Athlon optics right now. Anybody familiar with that? |
@ 08:39 pm (GMT) |
Mike MadaRe: Trying to Select a ScopecameralandNY has Leica 2-10 ER 5 for less than $600. IOR are very good too. If not Super Sniper as mentioned above.You might want to save and get the BUshnell elite 3.5-20 which got a good review for its price here http://precisionrifleblog.com/2014/09/19/tactical-scopes-field-test-results-summary/ |
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