@ 08:21 pm (GMT) |
IanLong time reader - first time poster.Apologies for the length - this is a mix of testimonial for Nathan's book series and a trip report The research and prep I have been shooting small game/pests my whole life, but recently decided to have a try at deer hunting. I'm pretty analytical in nature so Nathan's book series was like crack cocaine for someone like me. The main target deer species in the state I live is Sambar 100 to 350 kg (220 to 770 lb), with most shot opportunities within 300m (of which 90% are within 150m). There are also Red and Fallow deer opportunities. Following the Cartridges book I settled on 30-06 as I wanted an all round utility rifle. I found a new Remington 700 AWR with 24 5R sporter barrel during an end of financial year sale. The stock forend and palm swell felt a bit puny in my hands, so I sourced a used HS Precision stock from a Remington Sendero. This made a big difference. The rifle now has a perfect (for me) forend and palm swell. I topped it with a Leupold VX 5 HD 3-15 scope with the firedot duplex reticle, bringing total weight (including sling) to 9.25lb/4.2kg. I shoot competitive Fullbore rifle, so have lots of experience in load development and reloading. Following the great info in the cartridges book, forum posts and knowledge-base I struggled to decide between 180g Woodleigh pp, 180 Nosler Partition and 200 Hornady ELDx. I worked up loads for each of them to see which would be most accurate in my rifle. The ELDx grouped the best, but they all grouped well enough for the target species. I then saw Hannahs close range sambar 308 load thread https://www.ballisticstudies.com/Resources/Discussion+Forums/x_forum/24/thread/23102.html and, after re-reading the knowledge base (something about bread and butter), settled on a dual-load 200g Nosler partition (2657 fps) and 200g ELDx (2663 fps) both using Superperformance powder. Given my likely distances, on reflection I probably dont need to dual load, but i'm an optimist by nature :). I then spent many a weekend at the range practicing various positional shooting with the rifle, shooting at paper dinner plates (using less expensive 180g Hornady interlock projectiles). The Hunt I finally got the time to test all of this theory out, and given my inexperience, decided to use a guide so I could learn a few tactics from the outset. At about 4.00pm on the last day we managed to find a young stag between 50 and 80 meters away. It was quartering towards me so I aimed in front of the foreleg for a fast anchoring kill. This tactic was successful, with the Stag collapsing on the spot and follow-up shot not required. On inspection, the projectile entered at the neck-shoulder junction, hitting the spine and stopped on the off side hide between the fore and aft legs. The whole front led core was dumped into the body, with the rear partition driving through the vitals. Darkness was approaching so we didnt have time for a full necropsy, but I managed to get a couple of photos. In summary the system worked and the rifle, cartridge and projectile performed as it should. I understand that not all future shots go as well as this one, but I couldnt be happier. A bug thanks to Nathan and Steph for the informative books, the videos and website. Also thanks to the many forum members who either asked great questions or shared their valuable experiences. Now for a question. My next hunt will be likely for fallow deer with 20% chance of a red deer. It will be thick bush and likely shots from 50m to 200m max. Should I drop down to something like a 165g / 180g partition or 178/200 ELDx? I am more interested in fast killing than meat saving. |
@ 11:08 pm (GMT) |
Lane SalvatoRe: Sambar Deer - 200g Nosler Partition - 30-06 hunt write upIan, congratulations on the hunt and the deer. We hunted and guided for fallow deer and red deer for decades. Your current setup is fine for the distances you're talking about. Pretty normal fare really. Your red deer are typically larger there than the ones we see, so your 200 gr. partition will serve you well. Fallow deer are not difficult at all. They're like taking a large whitetail or axis deer. Axis deer are to my mind put together a little tougher than fallow. I like the 180 grain partition.Never used the 178 ELD-X so I won't offer any theoretical advice there. My gut is telling me that for fallow it's plenty and for red deer it could be at its limit, but that's just a feeling. Congratulations again on the great hunt. |
@ 07:24 am (GMT) |
Nathan FosterRe: Sambar Deer - 200g Nosler Partition - 30-06 hunt write upHi Ian, thank you so much for your kind words. Am glad to hear that your hunt went well, what an excellent result.Yes, Fallow could be put down with a 110gr V-Max but this is not an ideal projectile for a chance Red deer. Seeing as you have already worked up your dual load and taking current powder / projectile shortages into account, you may as well stick with what you have, but leaving the Partition at home and using 200gr ELD-X for both Fallow and Red. This will work well under the conditions you have described. |
@ 11:36 am (GMT) |
IanRe: Sambar Deer - 200g Nosler Partition - 30-06 hunt write upThanks Lane and Nathan - great advice. I like the idea of using what I have - given the load development is already done.To add to the collective field knowledge, here are the photos: Entry wound 200g Nosler partition after striking at approx 2551- 2447 fps and penetrating deep. Whole front core shed with rear core and jacket in tact. Retained weight 116g Projectile resting on off-side hide mid-body against the hide |