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1080 Poison in New Zealand
@ 08:24 am (GMT) |
Mike NeesonHello all, if this is the wrong forum to discuss this then I apologise in advance. I recently watched this documentary on the wholesale use of 1080 baits in NZ and was horrified.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQRuOj96CRs I have written an email to the minister for the "Department of Conservation" expressing my disbelief and sadness that this stuff was basically being used to carpet bomb NZ. I had been lead to believe that this stuff was selective and the "by-catch" was negligible. If this Doco is only half true then have we been lead down the garden path! It kills frikken everything. And the footage of the birds, deer, domestic cattle etc dieing from ingesting this stuff burned me to my soul. If you watch it and feel compelled as I did, send an email to Dr Nick Smith [email protected] and express your concerns. If you don't live in NZ then send it anyway, they need to know the world is watching. |
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@ 02:55 pm (GMT) |
Nathan FosterRe: 1080 Poison in New ZealandThe more people see this the better.I once met an entomologist working for Doc, studying insect by kills. He said even the insects get killed. I don't know why they hired him because they shelved all of his research. Many of our environmentalists have an idealistic, fanatical, genecide like take on the NZ bush. People cannot get it through their heads that NZ will never be the same as it was in pre European times unless we 1080 the human population? The best we can do is maintain some sort of balance. I have a friend who works on eliminating rats, cats and mustelids on his bush block. These pests are not so easy to eliminate. They have always been in the too hard basket for Doc. Carpet bombing with 1080 is easy, trapping mustelids is bloody hard work. But if these pricks really want to clean up the bush, they need to employ people to do what my friend is doing. But its not easy- its bloody hard work and it will never ever stop because we can never really get rid of rats and mustelids without some sort of genetic disease etc. I think some members of Doc are starting to address the "too hard basket" so we need to be mindful of this. It would be good to see a full return to Forest service workers one day- rather than helicopter operators and men in rubber suits with gas masks. |
@ 05:27 pm (GMT) |
Martin TaylorRe: 1080 Poison in New ZealandGents,1080 kills everything it touches, as you have found out Mike! 20 odd years ago as a young farmhand l helped lay multiple lines of 1080 baited carrots supplied by the local shire to control rabbits on the farm, the resault was staggering to say the least! The amount of secondary kill off was criminal, all fauna, nearly all of the birds from small to Wedge Tail Eagles, everything in that ecosystem was effected by the poison, dead animals get eaten by others and so it go's killing all. As l said crimminal! Just Thursday night l sat down to watch your NZ hunting show and the whole show was about this very subject, showed how with hard work the ferals could be destroyed humanly with selective trapping. 1080 was discussed at length and why it should not be used, so well done to all involved in that campaign! Only now here in Aust are we seeing larger scale goverment land managment working with hunters to control introduced ferals in Nat parks etc, their is talk of poisoning deer, which is absurd! Good luck with this one NZ, l hope the greater community gets behind it! |
@ 03:38 pm (GMT) |
Richard ButlerRe: 1080 Poison in New ZealandI may be being a bit pedantic here but I think the point needs to be made that the problem is not so much 1080 itself but the palatability of baits to non target species, secondary kills and the 'carpet bombing' application of said baits. I alsobelieve there is an issue where introduced animals over time genetically shift to become NZ subspecies which they must. When do we start valuing those organisms and how do we resolve the competition between old indigenous and new indigenous? |
@ 11:45 am (GMT) |
faulknerRe: 1080 Poison in New ZealandDon't like to spout off on things I am ignorant on but poison is a sad affair, its even band from its use in war. Seams to me is the desired results haven't been achieved in 30-40 years of use maybe a different approach is needed. I had a really eye opener talk with an old deer culler when I was in NZ, didn't sound like an easy solution was at hand.As a tourist to NZ once and hopefully more times in the future, I hate the though of 1080, email sent to; Dr Nick Smith [email protected] Aj |
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