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goats rutting etc
@ 04:13 am (GMT) |
jason browncan some members fill me in on the time of year goats start rutting. I havnt had much luck finding anything on the net.I know a place where I see goats. its basicly a gorge the goats are on the other side to which I cant and don't have access. but its right behind a house I frequent. if I hear or see them I often watch for a bit to try and figure out what there up too. I often hear the kids. but today I also heard other older goats as well. but couldn't see them. are they now vocal because there rutting? would it be the billys? a fair while ago, im not sure maybe three months. I seen the billys chasing the nannies. so that's why I wonder when the rut is, or do they take that ride anytime? iv heard about them not liking being in the open in the rain and noticed that. and seen them run off into cover when the farmer comes. they seem to travel up and down the same ridge and bed down on a lower ridge. I think its just interesting and maybe helpful to know what there up to and how they act. thanks for any info. |
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@ 04:29 pm (GMT) |
Nathan FosterRe: goats rutting etcHi Jase, late summer through Winter is the go.Yes, all of that odd noise that sounds like something dying and the chasing of nanny goats is the rut. Tip- if you are ever guiding a husband and wife and see a nanny ridden to the edge of a cliff (so that she has to push back)- try to avoid eye contact or eye contact + smirks with the clients wife. Leave all smirking to the husband so that he can get into trouble on his own. As soon as you feel that smirk- just look the other way. |
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@ 02:04 am (GMT) |
jason brownRe: goats rutting etcoh yeah, so must be starting.haha that's funny. iv heard from others the billys are pretty full on with the nannies. (its a family show and all, no detail) so, are they anything like deer herding there groups of girls and fighting? they seem to hang out together all the time anyway, and I hear the billy doesn't mind sharing? are they more likely to be hiding in the scrub rather than the open, or still much the same as the rest of the year? thanks. |
@ 11:21 am (GMT) |
Mike NeesonRe: goats rutting etcI now this is a wasted reply, but oh man, that was hilarious. hahaha. Laughed my arse off. I am sitting here on night shift and can say that this little exchange has been the highlight. Thankyou gentlemen. Cheers. |
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@ 05:23 pm (GMT) |
Nathan FosterRe: goats rutting etcThe habits of goats do not seem to change much during the rut, the nannies stay together as per usual. A nanny comes into heat and billies converge to fight over her while the other nannies pretty much ignore the process and continue to browse. The in-heat nanny seems to spend most of her time trying to get away from the billies while the billies are torn between trying to herd and copulate with the nanny versus fighting amongst each other for dominance. In this sense, the animals tend to go around and around in circles until a clearly dominant male is found and he can corner the nanny and get on with the job. In our area, the cliff trick seems to be a sure win if the situation and terrain allows.The billies also try to show their vocal prowess, the common bleat being- well, too common. A real man should be able to make other noises, hence the strange array of random sounds. When the billies are really worked up, they can at times take little notice of hunters or shots fired- a Sika stag would be horrified at this lack of personal safety. |
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@ 12:57 am (GMT) |
jason brownRe: goats rutting etcthanks Nathan. this gives ne a better idea what to expect. and to make sense of all the noise.one more question if you don't mind. when game, any medium game urinates on grass does it normally kill the grass? or is it a sometimes thing. I know my dog does, but doubt its all the time, maybe its the first in the morning. I found a weird patch of a few different spots all close and dead. kind of like spot spraying weeds. but its not that. even if what I seen was man made. I often wonder if dead grass spots are some kind of sign. do you know the rhyme or reason to this, if it is indeed animals? thanks. |
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@ 07:50 pm (GMT) |
Nathan FosterRe: goats rutting etcYes, morning urine (high in ammonia and urea) can burn off pasture. The same occurs when an animal utilizes the same place as a toliet area. This is particularly prevalent in yarded dogs and more especially pigs which have clearly designated toilets whether captive or wild.Wild deer (and pigs) can have yarding areas, a self imposed safe area between the true saftety of their beds and dangerous clearings where they have been feeding, generally just a short distance from their feed area inside the bushline (if feeding on clearings as an example)- but this is not usually on grass. This is where we get the impression that deer simply materialze out of the bush where in truth, the animals have been standing and waiting a short distance away for ideal light or wind conditions etc, allowing time for their senses to attune to potential danger areas. Goat and sheep tend to go anywhere and everywhere, including where they are lying in their beds, although they will stand to urinate as opposed to lying down for the old number 2. Famers can also poison pasture by using too much urea. Some plants grow quickly but the feed lacks value while waterways can become poisoned. This modern approach to dairy farming has at times threatened our clean green image. Many traditional dairy farmers refuse to use Urea to the same degree that young over eager farmers adopt. Dry stock farmers seldom use urea in high quantities. The more foolish of dairy farmers forget that their activities can effect animal health to the point that veterinary bills along with other effects of intensive farming including both animal stress and human stress can outweigh seemingly increased production. We are only just learning that once a day milking or 16 hour rotations can be equally productive if the animals are given time to adjust. |
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@ 11:40 pm (GMT) |
jason brownRe: goats rutting etcthanks Nathan!its just good for me to try and understand these things when looking for game. its all pieces to the puzzle. |
@ 06:06 am (GMT) |
Bob MavinRe: goats rutting etcHi JasonI don't know were you are but here in Western NSW the Billies & Nannies were all together three weeks ago. I was hunting all last week and the Billies were separate again. They're usually in separate herds, male & female but not too far apart. I don't know how often they form one herd and don't know if they come into season all together like Deer. But they're easily called. I have my cool room full of young nannies so I'm happy!!! Bob |
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@ 04:43 pm (GMT) |
jason brownRe: goats rutting etchi bob, how do you call them in?im in new Zealand. |
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@ 05:19 pm (GMT) |
Bob MavinRe: goats rutting etcG'day JasonI recorded a young goat onto my phone, along with other calls I use for Deer, Fox etc. I also use a small amplifier that I plug the phone into. Works a treat. Bob |
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@ 07:38 pm (GMT) |
jason brownRe: goats rutting etcoh that's interesting. iv done it a few times with magpies. |
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