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Big gun for a little lady
@ 01:00 am (GMT) |
deerndingoHi,I have a friend who intends training herself up to walk a team of camels from north coast West Australia to Perth for charity. She is half way there after we both just returned from a 13 days walk with camels in the Simpson Desert. One thing that must be carried when doing such a task is a rifle capable of quickly dispatching a 750kg, wild, bull camel intent on interfering with your camel string. In some cases there is no time to take a measured shot for the temple. It may be a front on shot between the shoulders with head lowered or a side on shot. As such, a significant round is required to stop it. The lady in question is about 55kg and no more than 5'2". I mentioned a 9.3 x 62, because it is my understanding it was designed as a house gun for women in South Africa to control the occasional dangerous game, but I'd be please to hear what others would suggest. Appropriate projectiles would be good to hear about also. Thank you |
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@ 05:27 pm (GMT) |
Nathan FosterRe: Big gun for a little ladyHi there, its a tough call because each person is so very different. Recoil perception is very much dependent on the mental attitude of the shooter and weighs equally with physical attributes and limitations.One person may complain about the recoil of a .308 as this is has become a fixation while another may be focused on the job at hand and the need for a certain level of power and think nothing of the recoil of a medium bore. Generally speaking, women display a great deal of compassion towards game animals and will generally use as much power as is required without complaint- so long as they understand the need for such power. Women will also practice diligently if they are told that lax technique (or recoil effecting accuracy) may cause wounded game. This leaves the final question, how much recoil can the woman in question physically handle. Steph for example, will shoot the .375 RUM unbraked, firing a 300 grain bullet at 2950fps from a 10lb rifle. Again, the need for a fast kill on large animals outweighs her personal discomfort- its a non issue. But Steph is fairly tall and well muscled for her species. A 9.3 could be used with great effect, but someone would need to make a variety of loads, down loads through to full power loads for the lady in question if she has no prior shooting experience. Down loads from a medium bore induce a slow rolling recoil. The rifle would need to have a light rigger- 1.5lb if possible. The scope should be a straight Leupold VX1 3-9x40, mounted well forwards. The rifle will need a sling, sling tension set for shooting or carrying on one shoulder, not loose for carrying diagonally. Start with a range day. Begin with a .22 LR if possible, move to a small centerfire or very soft loads in the 9.3. Trail boss loads in the 9.3 would be a doddle for any lady. Mid and full power loads would need to be tested to establish personal limits. A .358 Win would also be ideal but with the current abundance of 9.3 rifles in Oz, I think you are on the right track. I think simply grabbing a rifle and leaving it at that is the wrong way to go unless the lady in question has prior shooting experience. If she has prior experience, a range day with factory ammo or basic mid and full power loads will be the go. |
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@ 07:23 am (GMT) |
deerndingoRe: Big gun for a little ladyThanks Nathan. I have passed on your advice. I live in Brisbane and she lives in northern West Australia. She's a tough one so I think she'll wear the recoil. I was just seeing if the 9.3 is considered to have enough punch for the job.What projectile would you recommend? |
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@ 04:11 pm (GMT) |
Nathan FosterRe: Big gun for a little ladyAlthough male camel body weights range from around 400-600kg, the weight is distributed in an elongated fashion making these animals lean in comparison to a bovine of the same weight. Any soft point bullet weighing 250 to 286 grains will do the job.To be honest, I wish Woodleigh would make a 225gr RN weld core bullet. This would be ideal for your lady friend. A moot point I suppose. The 225gr RWS could also be used but I am told that Forbes Wholesale Australia are no longer stocking RWS- or are out of stock? Options: Woodleigh 250gr RNSP Interlock 286gr Partition 286gr Accubond 250gr (just don't get sucked into deep penetration with this bullet) Speer 270gr Semi point Hot cor. Bullets that seem to be unavailable in Oz now: RWS range Norma range including 232gr bullet. (if anyone knows of a source for these, please post). You will need to check factory ammo availability locally. RWS was once well represented. Not so now I believe. If factory ammo is required but is unobtainable, we might have to go back to the drawing board. |
@ 06:25 pm (GMT) |
Martin TaylorRe: Big gun for a little ladyI don't know if this is to much gun for your friend deerndingo, its a individual thing as Nathan has said!As for a house wifes calibre???? its going to punch with 280+ grain pills which is most of your factory offerings here in oz. There is a 250gr factory load as well. Weight, stock fit & hold will be bloody important though. Reloading is always an option but projectiles are hard to get at the moment and not being an "American" calibre don't help any! I have gone with the Woodleigh projectile as in Nathans list & they also have their heavier pills in stock. Outdoor Sporting Agencies are now the RWS importer if your budget lends itself! they have 0 stock of projectiles due to just taking on the brand but they told me l could order through any GS. Min 3 mth wait though. Cheer Marty |
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@ 11:41 pm (GMT) |
Nathan FosterRe: Big gun for a little ladyHere is a price list from Rebel gun works QLD:http://rebelgunworks.com/node/1040?page=10 |
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@ 11:58 pm (GMT) |
Nathan FosterRe: Big gun for a little ladyMore Ozzy mischief here:http://www.auscp.net.au/www.auscp.net.au/Price_List.html |
@ 12:13 am (GMT) |
Mike NeesonRe: Big gun for a little ladyThanks Nathan for the link... WHEN WILL AUSSIE BULLETS MANUFACTURERS BUILD A 308 BOATTAIL BIGGER THAN 155? (imagine me howling it to the heavens with arms outstretched). |
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@ 06:49 pm (GMT) |
Martin TaylorRe: Big gun for a little ladyThanks for the links Nathan, l had spoken to Forbes and OSA neither knew of any stocks!The RWS is at the preminum end with both quality & price, load development would be hard & fast @ $2 a 225gr pill, plus freight! I have 100 250gr RN Woodleighs on the way after discussing it with yourself and Woodleighs about my intentended use on Sambar! I did the ring-around and emails for 3 weeks tracking down reloading components to suit this calibre, so thanks again Nathan. |
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@ 10:02 pm (GMT) |
Nathan FosterRe: Big gun for a little ladyHi Marty, this really highlights the need for a basic inexpensive 225gr bullet. I hope you can find a means of swaging down 225gr Interlock bullets for your rifle. There has to be a simple method. Its only 9 thou.... |
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