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@ 03:26 pm (GMT) |
Warwick MarflittHey everyone. I've been working around the world for a while now. I have been an auto electrician for 30 years working on about every kind of vehicle made. I remember as an apprentice being mentored and taught by some really great tradesmen. Learning many different skills and things through watching and asking questions. Am I the only one who has noticed that modern day people are resistant to being shown old tried and proven ways to get jobs done in a timely and professional manner.? Time and time again these trainees turn up to learn a trade and when you go to show them a procedure they resist or completely ignore the instructions. Do a half arsed job and waste product time n money. I've thought and written about this development and I have come up with a word that describes this resistive behaviour ! Now it could just be that my expectations of these new apprentices is too high.? Thinking more about it and questioning myself. I've discovered that these kids have basic skills missing. Time management. Seeing dirt, no concept of cleaning up as they go. (The easiest mess you'll ever clean up. Is the one you don't make!) Put a bin below the vice when you strip a Starter motor/Alternator and all the crap falls in the bin. Wash parts/items/engines/vehicle's before you work on them......I could go on 😉So what is the thought process of these young up and coming saviours of the future? Argue all you want! "You're not paid to be stupid"! I was lost for a word that would accurately describe this phenomenon. I couldn't find any existing phrase that didn't have swearing or derogatory connotations. So I made one up...... Ninglephut.... this one word means all of the faults I've mentioned above. Feel free to use it for these special people. Or for any you meet who want everything for nothing. Oh and remember the Seven P's. POOR PRIOR PLANNING PRODUCES PISS POOR PERFORMANCE Take care all. |
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@ 03:30 pm (GMT) |
Warwick MarflittRe: Ninglephut......a new wordToday. Is just tomorrows, yesterday. |
@ 05:15 am (GMT) |
Paul LevermanRe: Ninglephut......a new wordIt could be that there is no "instant gratification". After all, they've grown up spoiled, handed everything on a silver platter, have never had to really work for anything they want, and feel entitled to everything that we have worked all our lives to attain.You can't blame them entirely. Parents have failed horribly. Because our society has dictated that we need more and better, that money is everything and without it you are substandard, a pattern developed where one family could not possibly survive on one income. So, parent #2 gets a job, leaves the spawn in the care of a complete stranger. Unfortunately, this happens in the formative years, and the life values that should be instilled get put to the side because the caretaker is only interested in the paycheck. Imagine a puppy left to it's own devices, untrained, undisciplined. What good would it be? Enter that same dog into an obedience trial, in an arena packed with owners and their well trained mutts, under the watchful eye of professional judges, and being observed by the critical masses. What would the outcome be? Confusion? Rebellion? Shut down? And whose fault is it? Not the dog's. He doesn't know any better. Why not? Because no one took the time to raise, nurture, and train it how to behave in a competitive situation. I can wholly understand your frustration when dealing with apprentices. Not all, but enough to make wonder if you should encourage a career change. It is hard to try to train or teach someone when all they want you to do is shut up so they can check their email or facebook or twatter or whatever the hell they do with that growth connected to their hand. I recently hired a kid from the neighborhood to do some work. My first rule was to leave that thing in your hand at home. I told him if he showed up on the property with it, he could just turn around and go home. When he showed up, I was actually amazed that he complied. When I handed him a rake, and showed him what I needed done, this look came over his face that is hard to describe. He could not fathom the fact that he would actually have to do some sort of physical labour/activity to earn his pay. What was worse was the fact that he had no idea how to use a rake. A rake. Just a rake, to move gravel from here to there. No idea. None. Completely and utterly lost. Ninglephut . |
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@ 11:56 pm (GMT) |
Warwick MarflittRe: Ninglephut......a new wordCould'nt rake stones!!!!! REALLY? Ninglephut.......... Wow!Well I've seen kids that can't catch a ball, men who can't sharpen a knife. Just imagine having never caught a fish, Lighting and cooking a meal on a fire, washing in a stream, being alone in the bush living off the land for a week? But thinking about it! That's no longer normal behavior for the masses...... And as I don't have Face book, twitter, Instagram, Skype, Apps on my phone, I'm 50 and I've never owned a house, only buy cheap second hand cars that my skills allow for easy servicing and repairs. I don't drink or smoke, Not overweight, Have no Debt, don't have any insurance and I think about stuff that others take for granted. So I guess that I'm way off of being normal lol But! I did get a good education and was exposed to good mentors through family friends and different contractors who worked on our farm. Plumbers, builders, fencers, earth moving contractors all who answered questions showed shared and let me help, hit, dig, drive and explained how and why things worked and did the things that they did......... I was just bloody lucky I guess...... |
@ 01:12 pm (GMT) |
Dan KeeneRe: Ninglephut......a new wordHi Warwick,This phenomena has been documented all over the world by psychologists. Since the 70s each generation has been a few IQ points down on the previous one. Human IQ actually peaked about then. Google it. There are plenty of studies. So what you and I have noticed is the beginning of the Fucktard Apocalypse! Don't worry about the Zombies the Fucktards are already overrunning us. |
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@ 09:12 am (GMT) |
Warwick MarflittRe: Ninglephut......a new wordDanMaybe this copy and paste from " Behold a Pale Horse" On Silent weapons for quiet wars is whats going on????? "The solution of today's problems requires an approach which is ruthlessly candid, with no agonizing over religious, moral or cultural values. You have qualified for this project because of your ability to look at human society with cold objectivity, and yet analyze and discuss your observations and conclusions with others of similar intellectual capacity without the loss of discretion or humility. Such virtues are exercised in your own best interest. Do not deviate from them" WTF!!!! "DIVERSION, THE PRIMARY STRATEGY Experience has prevent that the simplest method of securing and gaining control of the public is to keep the public undisciplined and ignorant of the basic system principles on the one hand, while keeping them confused, disorganized, and distracted with matters of no real importance (Married at first sight Australia) on the other hand. This is achieved by: (1) disengaging their minds; sabotaging their mental activities; providing a low-quality program of public education in mathematics, logic, systems design and economics; and discouraging technical creativity. (2) engaging their emotions, increasing their self-indulgence and their indulgence in emotional and physical activities, by: (a) unrelenting emotional affrontations and attacks (mental and emotional) by way of constant barrage of sex, violence, and wars in the media - especially the T.V. and the newspapers. (b) giving them what they desire - in excess - "junk food for thought" - and depriving them of what they really need. (3) rewriting history and law and subjecting the public to the deviant creation, thus being able to shift their thinking from personal needs to highly fabricated outside priorities. These preclude their interest in and discovery of the silent weapons of social automation technology. The general rule is that there is a profit in confusion; the more confusion, the more profit. Therefore, the best approach is to create problems and then offer solutions. DIVERSION SUMMARY Media: Keep the adult public attention diverted away from the real social issues, and captivated by matters of no real importance. Schools: Keep the young public ignorant of real mathematics, real economics, real law, and real history. Entertainment: Keep the public entertainment below a sixth-grade level. Work: Keep the public busy, busy, busy, with no time to think; back on the farm with the other animals". I think its time to listen to Pink Floyd's advice and "RUN" and hide from the machine!!!! WHAT OUR YOUNG NEED FOR LIFE IS REAL EDUCATION... "LIFE SKILLS, FACTUAL TRUTH BASED EDUCATION, REAL ARITHMETIC AND MATHEMATICS, BUDGETING SKILLS, STRATEGIC THINKING CLASSES, HOW TO COOK, WOOD & METAL WORK CLASSES. EMPATHY AND CONSIDERATION FOR OTHERS, SELF WORTH, DEBATING SKILLS" |
@ 06:47 pm (GMT) |
Thomas KitchenRe: Ninglephut......a new wordi couldn't agree more and i'm probably at least generation behind few of you.when i was at high school ncea had just come in couple years before, you can imagine how i felt when the higher level classes i were in had less amount of credits on offer then the lowest level ones. moving on when i started as apprentice i was young and no doubt i was bit cocky and made some simple mistakes but i learnt quick and there was no pussyfooting around people in case they got upset, you heard about your mistakes. i also had done a year in hard physical labour job before i tried to get a trade (forestry) i worked for the same company for 14 years, i remember my boss saying to me your getting bit negative, even if its basic stuff you need to tell people they are doing a good job. i was having 16 year olds come back with a probing spear and chamber lid lifters asking which one it is when you ask them to grab a pick from the van. years later the company grew massively to over 40 people. boss would stress about all the thousands of dollars worth of mistakes, and being helpful i would suggest he's being to negative maybe he should say well done every time a digger driver doesn't hit a house and a truck driver doesn't run over power boxes etc. the ratio got to bad having 4 apprentice to one tradesman got to me in a drainage crew, went plumbing to work by myself bit more. i'm now self employed and work by myself i miss teaching and trying to pass on skills but it's pretty pleasant not having to deal with attitudes. Paul's thoughts line up with mine, if a father has to work 50 plus hours a week and plus the mother working then the child misses out on a lot of basic skills and knowledge add in a high density urban area. we are just hitting the first generation of the issues now, young men that decides they want to be builders but have never built a tree house in their lives etc. you'll be surprised how many people have never used a spade, shovel, rake, wheel barrow and swung a hammer in their lives things that lot of us take for granted. |
@ 09:06 pm (GMT) |
Andrew MurrayRe: Ninglephut......a new wordGents,I respect you all a great deal, so I wqon't reply with the same disdain and ignorance you've shown towards Gen Y and Z. I am part of Gen Y (roughly 1980-98), I was born in 86. The "information" given here is so inaccurate and biased as to be grievous. As Trump might put it "FAKE NEWS!!!" Dan, your assertion is actually backwards, IQs have been going up. Warwick your disdain for apprentices makes me wonder whether its the job they dislike to the people they work with? These generations are the first to face a DROP in living standards when compared to the previous generation. Debt is at an all time high, the planet is rooted, jobs are scarce and uncertainty in life is worse than during both World Wars. These generations are some of the most qualified in history, physical labour and trade jobs are disappearing because automation is taking place of these. Most kids trying to get a job at Maccas these days need to have at least 50hrs of community volunteer work just to get a foot in. Don't sit there and say these kids aren't hard workers because the idea of more mindless monotony doesn't fly with them. If you really want to make a difference with these kids and impart something life giving to them you need to get on their level, they honestly don't give a crap what you know, their world is full of people who know things, this generation want to now you care, because in their world, that is rarer than rocking horse shit. I bet you wouldn't have gone through half the things the kids I work with have gone through, not to mention you had free education, cheap housing, a higher standard of living, no fear or anxiety about the world, leaders you could trust, a planet that wasn't dead and guaranteed work. Ask them questions, actually get to know them. You'll be surprised at how resilient, hard-working, dedicated and fiercely loyal they are, and like it or not, the way they do things is here to stay because the world you created has made it so. If this triggers something in you to respond in defence or attack then it's you who needs to consider everything I have written. I love you guys too much to let these ideas fester and grow because its ninglephut. |
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@ 01:37 am (GMT) |
Paul LevermanRe: Ninglephut......a new wordThere are some good points being made here. I think what we have to do is listen (read) what others are saying in order to understand, not just to respond. This is what I find to be one of the top ten reasons for misunderstanding today.Each respondent here has had a unique encounter with the "troubled youth" of today. This lends itself to a different outlook on what the "problem" is. Both Warwick and I have seen it on the (for lack of a better term) physical side. Andrew, I'm guessing, is possibly working with the social or mental side. Both are legitimate causes for concern. Unfortunately, there is no easy answer. Andrew is very correct in saying that these kids need to know you care. And this is not the coddling, spoiling, buy them whatever they want type of caring. This is where the nurturing comes in, and it has to start at day one of their lives. Look at whomever you want, and really look at their lives, and you will see why they turned out the way they did. There is more, but I have to get ready to go and do my menial, underpaid, mind-numbing "job". Will carry on with the diatribe later. |
@ 05:15 am (GMT) |
Joshua MayfieldRe: Ninglephut......a new wordFirst off, I think "ninglephut" is a tremendous word and I intend to utilize it extensively.Second, whether you regard the Bible as sacred text, classic literature, or something else, I invite you to read through the book of Ecclesiastes. It's not long, but there is much there. Read the whole thing though. Cherrypicking a verse from here or there is a very ninglephut thing to do that is done far too often by my religious brethren. I've been guilty of it myself. But there truly is nothing new under the sun. One reason this forum is on my very small list of internet spots that I believe to be worthwhile is illustrated by this discussion. Highly intelligent, highly skilled people from different parts of the world able to discuss, agree, disagree, and discuss further. And I do believe part of the reason the people involved here are able to do that is because you are all men of physical skill and practical learning. You participate on the internet but you don't live on the internet. This is something that worries me with the youth (however you define that) of today - that some have been taught to live virtually to a degree that can't be healthy. But, laziness of body and mind have been present in our society forever. Ineptitude also. Classic literature is full of both brilliant, industrious, creative people and.... other kinds. I wasn't there to see it, but I believe that as my grandfather's generation came to embrace and rely on the newly invented tractor the older farmers probably spent some time decrying the loss of all the values, skills, and knowledge that man can only acquire through the need to train and utilize livestock. (Grapes of Wrath, anyone?) And were good things lost? Certainly. At least, some good things became the knowledge of a minority who put in the work to retain them even though it had become unnecessary for their livelihood. This cycle goes back as far into history as man's propensity to invent and improve and will never stop. It's illustrated in a small way by all us "Foster-followers" who have decided it's worth reading, learning, tinkering, and striving to achieve our desired results with firearms when we could very easily accept that Remington, Winchester, Ruger, Tikka, and many others have refined their manufacturing to a point where any of us could go buy a rifle off the shelf that will shoot more accurately as-is than anything most of our grandfathers ever held. I believe that I am in harmony with Warwick, Paul, Dan, and Thomas in that it is hard to articulate the frustration of dealing with a person - of any age - who has no respect or appreciation for the skills and knowledge that is the literal foundation of the society they live in. And dealing with a crowd of this mindset is borderline terrifying. And I greatly appreciate Andrew's words (I was born in '78, for what it's worth). I do believe that those of us who've exited our youth MUST be absolutely dogmatic and stubborn about holding out hope for the youth, investing in them, and caring in a genuine and personal way. One of the most widely agreed upon "laws" of education is that EXPECTATION DETERMINES RESULTS. It is up to the teacher, not the student, to establish expectations. And we also have to be willing to embrace what I refer to in my professional setting as a "Baseball Mentality." The explanation for this is that if a baseball player can get a hit three out of every ten at-bats for his career, he will go to the Hall of Fame. When we are investing deeply and sincerely in people we will not hit for a high average. If three out of every ten people (and it's men and women of all ages, not just youth) I deal with professionally showed meaningful and lasting change the national news agencies would be at my door. But we keep swinging. One request: can we keep ninglephut in the realm of non-profanity? I'd like to be able to pass this on to my children sooner rather than later. Ninglephut... tremendous word. Warwick Marflitt for the Nobel Prize... not that he would accept it. |
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@ 09:17 am (GMT) |
Andrew MurrayRe: Ninglephut......a new wordHey just to clarify... is it ningle-putt or ningle-futt or ningle-put or ningle-foot in terms of pronunciation?And yes Paul, you're right, from a mental health/social perspective, and you nailed the care aspect straight on the head. The codling type of care is rubbish. True care is giving them the space to explore and make mistakes, not screaming when they fail, allowing the space to struggle but being supportive when they are stuck. Josh is a chaplain also so I can be safe in assuming he knows what I am talking about. Mercy triumphs over judgement. True care is walking along the journey with them, not walking the journey for them. Bless you guys. Happy Friday! |
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@ 01:23 am (GMT) |
Paul LevermanRe: Ninglephut......a new wordBefore I start, I you need to know: I'm working on very little sleep, long hours and a very surly mood (coffee hasn't kicked in). Take nothing personally."I bet you wouldn't have gone through half the things the kids I work with have gone through, not to mention you had free education, cheap housing, a higher standard of living, no fear or anxiety about the world, leaders you could trust, a planet that wasn't dead and guaranteed work." I'll take that bet. The Bomb Cold War vs. Terrorism Mortgages at 18% Highest unemployment rate The "Nuclear Clock" JFK, LBJ, Nixon Rainforest decimation @ 1000 acres/day GMO WWl, WWll, Indochina, Arab-Israeli, Korea Nuclear testing on domestic soil Over-population/over-crowding Leaded fuel/smog Rampant pollution No generation has a corner on strife. We all have to live with what was left to us by the previous tenants. With all due respect, we all have our crosses to bear. It's how you deal with them. |
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@ 07:43 am (GMT) |
Andrew MurrayRe: Ninglephut......a new wordIn all fairness, those issues still exist or effects are felt today by all generations. However I was talking specifically about the kids I deal with face to face. My area is not great, high instances of done stick violence, abuse of all kinds, high unemployment... I could go on but unless you see it here it's just stats and figures... |
@ 09:27 am (GMT) |
Nathan FosterRe: Ninglephut......a new wordSome nice compassionate words in this thread.I could go on about how we should behave. Instead I will relay how I speak to my daughter on a daily basis. This is not easy for me as I am sharing our private life but here goes: I love you. You are so smart, so beautiful, so kind, you are amazing. (On schooling) - Yes, unfortunately we are surrounded by messages of fear and guilt about the planet. You don't have to take this on, its OK that it makes you angry, just let it out, you have nothing to be guilty for. (On feeling rebellious at school) - This is normal, you are a teenager now. If you do not rebel, then we cannot grow and expand as a species. Your experiences are yours, they will never be mine. But what I would suggest, is that if you are feeling rebellious, that you channel this in positive ways. If you choose an inflammatory subject for your school speech (e.g. - why eating meat is good), remember that your true intentions are noble (her speech started with "Do you want to live without guilt"). Remember these intentions, you do not need to prove another modality as being bad. Remember what drives you. When researching, try to do your very best to obtain facts and always try to look deeper than the page one search (rankings) on google. (on work) - I don't care whether you work at the diner for the next 30 years or get that PHD in physics. All I want for you, is to love yourself, be kind to yourself and engage in this world. If you choose to work at the diner, don't complain about having a bum job - embrace it, allow yourself to fully appreciate the experience. This will allow you to truly connect with others. (On the subject of her interest in scientific discovery) - Not everyone will like what you discover. Those who break ground in science do not always achieve instant fame. In fact some poor souls will be rejected and ridiculed for their discoveries for years after their passing. It can take generations before a fact is accepted as a reality, regardless of the evidence. This is why it is so important that you are kind to yourself, that you can back yourself when the chips are down. (Of her general interests in her future). This world is an incredible place. We think in linear terms but as we stand here now, we are creating both our past and our future. One moment, we think we have a great understanding of the past and that there is nothing new to learn. In the next moment, some intrepid soul discovers an artifact that forces us to edit our history. Our future is unfolding in the same manner. All of this is open to you, for you to discover. Google does not have all the answers. Use your computer as a tool only, to inspire you to act. I love you, good night, use that wonderful imagination of yours to to create sweet dreams. Anyway guys, thats a slice of how we talk at home. For myself, I guess I am an inbetweener. I try to practice what I preach but old generational habits die hard (work till you drop / worry too much about customers etc). So for myself, I try to see this as a caretaker situation in which Riley is unique and has come to me but is not of me, doing my best to not pass on my own bullshit to her. But of course speech must be aligned with action. To this end, I think our kids can bring out the very best in us, helping us to slowly find our way back to ourselves- provided we are actually present to take part in this. Some days I get it right, other days not so well. I try. 
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@ 06:05 am (GMT) |
Paul LevermanRe: Ninglephut......a new wordPretty hard to top that advice. You're a good dad. |
@ 08:42 am (GMT) |
bryan longRe: Ninglephut......a new wordQuote: Gents,
Dan, your assertion is actually backwards, IQs have been going up. These generations are the first to face a DROP in living standards when compared to the previous generation. Debt is at an all time high, These generations are some of the most qualified in history, Hey Andrew, I was born in 74 but was 5 years working after school before going to UNi. so mostly was there with generation X Where in the world is the standard of living dropping? Not where I'm from, for sure. IQ isn't a very useful measure of anything. It measures intelligence but not how smart someone is. An extremely high IQ is as much of a barrier to success in life as an extremely low IQ. Debt like stress isn't something that someone else can put on you, they can and you will be offered lots of debt and stress in this life but you can avoid both. I've no debt. What is it that these generations are more qualified at? |
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@ 09:16 am (GMT) |
Andrew MurrayRe: Ninglephut......a new wordHi Bryan,Born in 74 would put you smack bang in the middle of Gen X. It is not surprising you have no debt, but to assume it is just because of your choices rather than your circumstances as well is not a fair assumption. I am glad you are debt free. I am Gen Y and we were debt free until our car died suddenly 500km from home. We have actively avoided debt but in this case it was debt or find jobs (ultra scarce already) in walking distance (actually impossible). But I digress, debt is a contract entered into but to say stress and debt is a choice does not do the situation justice for many. It is stress and debt as a choice or deeper stresses as the other choice, like no job, then homelessness... Gen Y has a uni qualification rate at 1 in 3 so it might be fair to say they are more qualified at everything. Gen Z is shaping up at 1 in 2 and they will be more qualified again. Gen X might be 1 in 6, I cannot remember I am sorry. I agree on the IQ part. The fact they are going up doesn't mean everyone is now as smart as Einstein, it means the IQ no longer is valid. There are some other factors here but newer measures of intelligence measure social and emotional factors, not just cognitive aspects. As for the living standards, this measures this like debt, peace, security (personal, political, national and global), work/life satisfaction, work/life balance, meaning/belief/value. Can I ask where you live (country) and I will try to locate some actual figures for you. |
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@ 11:21 am (GMT) |
bryan longRe: Ninglephut......a new wordI'm in Ireland.My grandad was a blacksmith born under British rule, fought his way to independence with with .303's he took in hand to hand fighting, spent most of his life without electricity or indoor plumbing. My parents were born during WW2, home births in houses without electricity or plumbing, got their first refrigerator when they got married. Me I know I got it better. Uni. qualification is often a qualification to do very little. 1 in 2 going to University, makes me wonder has there ever been an employment need for that amount of univeristy students, some of those people are taking themselves out of work and into debt for no benefit to themselves. I had jobs throughout high school and when I left school , I went to uni to get a better job, not just for a qualification or education. I don't have a car and I've always been within 25 miles of work so I've always cycled from my early school days. Bryan |
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@ 06:15 pm (GMT) |
Andrew MurrayRe: Ninglephut......a new wordHi again Bryan,Yes, Gen X was the last generation to be better off than the previous generation. Please note that I never said Gens Y and Z are THE most worse off, but they are worse of than Gens X and Boomers when measuring for socio-economic factors. Technology has come a long way, but it doesn't bring satisfaction. I disagree with your statement on uni qualifications, I would much rather have my doctors and engineers have 4+ years (upto 11) of training. But to suggest that people are taking themselves out of work to get a qualification assumes that you don't need the qualification to get the job. It is a vicious cycle and now more and more job require a Bachelor as a minimum entry requirement. It's good you can get around via bike, unfortunately we are in regional Australia, as you can imagine a bike just doesn't cut it for anything other than recreational stuff. I was unable to find specific info for you. Your CSO website was a little tricky to navigate and I could only see data for every year back to 2014 which does not really provide a significant window. If you want to look into further please look or google "peer reviewed generational data" with whatever other terms you want to add into it. For those who aren't sure what peer review is, it is a process where academics research a topic then have it scrutinised by other academics for flaws and bullshit. Once it has been combed over with a very fine tooth then that information is published and essentially becomes fact, only being falsified by other papers that can actually disprove or supercede the previous information. It is fact that Gens Y and Z are worse off than Gen X and Boomers. Please look it up for yourself if you don't believe me, but make sure you look at peer-reviewed information, not just some tabloid website. |
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@ 09:40 pm (GMT) |
Warwick MarflittRe: Ninglephut......a new wordFantastic reply's and discussion guys...... Thanks so much for adding and caring.Nathan for the "BEST DAD EVER" award....... Joshua.......Enjoy and use it like strawberry topping with Ninglephuts... Andrew...... 
Tenderness and kindness are not signs of weakness and despair, but manifestations of strength and resolution. Kahlil Gibran I have learnt much from reading Kahlil Gibran especially his book "The Prophet" Free reading here. http://www.katsandogz.com/onlove.html Pick individual topic from the left hand margin in the link and read and make of it what you will. Here's the way that I was taught my trade. Open the PDF on batteries and educate yourself a bit....... every two weeks I would get one of these in the post box "MAIL" in an envelope!!!! Wow who remembers that. I had to read and then do a book of questions usually about 8 pages all about the topic. Twice a year I went to Wellington Petone Tech. For 3 weeks of classes on everything Automotive. I was an Apprentice for four years. When I started I used to earn $127.00 a week after tax...... http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/books/lts_otcc.htm this old Information is still relevant today except for you cant replace a cell on your car battery any more. Because that would steal money from the sale of a new battery. Imagine if they banned Reloading.......... I bet the day comes as our numbers decrease. We too shall become the Last ever everlasting gobstopper.......... Notice the detail and attention to what how and why batteries are as they are........ Check out this Ninglephut. Have a close look at the detail. Sorry that its not higher resolution. 
I decided a long time ago. "That I'd rather die trying, Than live and die years later. Knowing That Nothing was tried". Take care and be safe. |
@ 05:51 pm (GMT) |
Jon ShortRe: Ninglephut......a new wordNinglephuts are unemployable if you ask me...Kinda reminds me of several Y generationers I have had the misfortune of attempting to employ ... Why do I have to work?... Why doesn't everything land in my lap? ...Surely to God they don't remain like that?!?(sorry to those Y gens out there) I once saw a cartoon of a Y generationer with everything on backwards, low riding his jeans showing his "Y" butt crack & his knuckles dragging along the ground. Had to laugh, hit the nail right on the head for me. Not a fan of qualifications from the classroom myself... It's what you do that counts & that is best learnt on the job by doing it with someone who really knows their shit showing you. I'd prefer the priority was on that rather than expensive half useless classroom quals. Qualifications have become a money making scam in NZ to a degree... yet over half of them can't find a job with these you beaut quals they paid a fortune for. Makes sense,... not! I guess you get that when you have Ninglephuts as politicians. In fact I am sure its a prerequisite isn't it?!? ;-) |
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@ 10:25 pm (GMT) |
Warwick MarflittRe: Ninglephut......a new wordSo Theodore Roosevelt was correct. In saying that"The things that will destroy you. ..... are Prosperity at any price, peace at any price, safety first instead of duty first, the love of soft living and the get rich quick theory of life. |
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@ 08:22 am (GMT) |
Andrew MurrayRe: Ninglephut......a new wordHey Jon! Nice to see you again. I tend to agree that classroom learning is not ideal for many jobs. Nursing used to be learning in the hospital but now is a uni course. But I think it should go back. Same as teaching, a uni degree, but would be better off as a combination of higher learning and more experience in the field. I do think there needs to be scrutiny on jobs like teaching but perhaps more psychological than academic. Both are important. Then pay our teachers and nurses more!But as Gen Y I do stand behind my above comments, next time I will take a breath before hitting the keyboard. The world is different, not bad. Just different. Wisdom from each generation evolves and disappears. Generational divides are ninglephut. We are all humans. We each need to play our part with kindness and responsibility for others. I want to break the individual idea that western society has. We are in this together. Global warming is changing the planet for everyone on it. Not just people burning coal. Terrorism affects us all, not just those with radical ideology. Over fishing affects us all, not just those who love sushi. We are a collective. Us vs them must end if we are going to make it. |
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Warwick MarflittRe: Ninglephut......a new wordSo here we are 3 years and a global health issue later? First of all How are you all doing? Many of the old posters are quiet! Hopefully you're all alive and kicking.... Wash your hands before you eat and DON'T touch your face!!!!The range of what we think and do is limited by what we fail to notice. And because we fail to notice that we fail to notice, there is little we can do to change; until we notice how failing to notice shapes our thoughts and deeds Take care all....... Kia Kaha (Stand Strong) |
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